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Post-discharge: Why can't I get approved for the same cards everyone else?

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chalupaman
Super Contributor

Re: Post-discharge: Why can't I get approved for the same cards everyone else?

I think it really depends on the person and the credit file. My credit was already in the dumps for over 3 years before I went through with bankruptcy, so a lot of the lenders I had burned and IIB like CapOne it had already been quite a while. With CapOne, I started with a 0 AF secured card from them and then they let me have a $3k MC with them over a year or so later. 

Tradelines: Macy’s - $18k, Penfed Power Cash Rewards - $10k, Ethan Allen (TD Bank) - $5.7k, Kay Jewelers - $5.5k, Appliances Connection - $5.3k, Jared - $5.25k, Best Buy (Citi) - $5k, Dell Preferred Account - $3.5k, Samsung - $3.2k, Firestone CFNA - $3.2k, Capital One Platinum - $3k, Mercury MC - $2.25k, Williams Sonoma - $2.1k, Wayfair (Fortiva) - $2k, Amazon Store Card - $1.8k, Apple Card - $1.7k, NFCU cashRewards - $1.5k, CareCredit - $1.5k, B&H Photo - $1.5k, Adorama - $1.25k, Ebay MC - $1k, Sam’s Club MC - $1k, American Eagle - $1k, Ollo MC - $600, Mission Lane Visa - $500, NY & Company - $500, Walgreens - $500, Home Depot - $500, Target RED Card - $500, CapOne Secured MC 0 AF - $500, Penfed Overdraft LOC - $500

Current FICOS: Mid 640s-50s on all reports, Ch 7 BK D/C Aug 2019
Starting scores: EX - 534, EQ - 574, TU - 516 | Total TLs: $91k approx | Total Utilization: 17%, getting this back down
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Anonymous
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Re: Post-discharge: Why can't I get approved for the same cards everyone else?

It's hard to figure out what goes into the decision process with these card companies.  I applied for a Mission Lane card even before my chapter 7 was discharged and I got it with a 750 limit.  I used it responsibly, pay on time  and kept a low balance.  Capital one offered me a card before the discharge also with a 500 limit and a month after the discharge the limits increased to as much as 3 grands.  Stop applying all over the place, it makes you look desparate and they can see it.  pay down the balance on the card you have way down and give it sometime.  I am sure you will regain credit worthiness, just give it some time.  Good luck


@jmcmillan wrote:

I did a lot of research waiting for this moment, and I'm getting denied for everything.

 

Discover denied me due to my bankruptcy.

 

Capital One denied me due to delinquent past credit obligations (I thought Capital One was forgiving?)

 

US bank denied me. (still waiting for the letter)

 

I guess I'm applying for OpenSky while everyone else gets to enjoy their prime CCs Smiley Sad


 

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GrandBay
Frequent Contributor

Re: Post-discharge: Why can't I get approved for the same cards everyone else?

@ToofDoc  how is Credit Strong working out for you? they seem rather expensive.

Message 23 of 29
Caliboy97
Contributor

Re: Post-discharge: Why can't I get approved for the same cards everyone else?

I'll give you a rough timeline for cards roughly:

 

Day after discharge: OpenSky and Kikoff $12 loan account 


About 31 days after discharge once all credit reports were updated: Capital one platinum card and NavyFed Secure card 

 

2 Months later SchoolsFirst FCU 

 

5 Months later Capital one Auto Loan

 

7 Months later Capital one Quicksilver and grain account.

 

8 months later: Approved for $65k auto loan Capital one if I want and Aspire credit card 

Bankruptcy Discharge 9/21/2020
Starting Scores

May Update (Moving)

Slow and Steady Rebuild. Around 15K in revolving credit at 2% and 45K Auto Loan! Hoping to start upping those limits over time.
Capital one Platinum and Quicksilver | Kia Financial 49K auto loan | Navy Fed Secure Card | OpenSky Secure Card | Schools First FCU Card | Grain account | KikOff Loan and credit account | Student Loans Perfect history 16K left
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jmcmillan
Frequent Contributor

Re: Post-discharge: Why can't I get approved for the same cards everyone else?


@Caliboy97 wrote:

 

5 Months later Capital one Auto Loan

 

 


May I ask more details on your auto loan? I'm at 5 months post-discharge. I'm curious about your APR, amount financed, and whether it was a new or used vehicle.

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Horseshoez
Senior Contributor

Re: Post-discharge: Why can't I get approved for the same cards everyone else?


@jmcmillan wrote:

@Caliboy97 wrote:

 

5 Months later Capital one Auto Loan

 

 


May I ask more details on your auto loan? I'm at 5 months post-discharge. I'm curious about your APR, amount financed, and whether it was a new or used vehicle.


Per a number of posts here from current and former dealership finance professionals, if you put enough money down (thinking at least 20%), you can get approved for most cars with a reasonable APR.

 

Circling back to the beginning of this thread; have you been able to land any credit cards so far?

Chapter 13:

  • Burned: AMEX, Chase, Citi, Wells Fargo, and South County Bank (now Bank of Southern California)
  • Filed: 26-Feb-2015
  • MoC: 01-Mar-2015
  • 1st Payment (posted): 23-Mar-2015
  • Last Payment (posted): 07-Feb-2020
  • Discharged: 04-Mar-2020
  • Closed: 23-Jun-2020

 

I categorically refuse to do AZEO!

In the proverbial sock drawer:
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jmcmillan
Frequent Contributor

Re: Post-discharge: Why can't I get approved for the same cards everyone else?


@Horseshoez wrote:


Per a number of posts here from current and former dealership finance professionals, if you put enough money down (thinking at least 20%), you can get approved for most cars with a reasonable APR.

 

Circling back to the beginning of this thread; have you been able to land any credit cards so far?


Yeah I've heard the same thing a few times. I decided to wait a couple more years to purchase a car, because it's NOT a buyer's market right now.

 

As for my cards, I went with two SDFCU secured cards and one OpenSky for the time being. I have my student loan mess mostly cleaned up, so hopefully I will be in a better position when these cards hit 1 year of age. I'm gardening at the moment, and I'm going to try Discover and US Bank again next year.

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Horseshoez
Senior Contributor

Re: Post-discharge: Why can't I get approved for the same cards everyone else?


@jmcmillan wrote:

@Horseshoez wrote:


Per a number of posts here from current and former dealership finance professionals, if you put enough money down (thinking at least 20%), you can get approved for most cars with a reasonable APR.

 

Circling back to the beginning of this thread; have you been able to land any credit cards so far?


Yeah I've heard the same thing a few times. I decided to wait a couple more years to purchase a car, because it's NOT a buyer's market right now.

 

As for my cards, I went with two SDFCU secured cards and one OpenSky for the time being. I have my student loan mess mostly cleaned up, so hopefully I will be in a better position when these cards hit 1 year of age. I'm gardening at the moment, and I'm going to try Discover and US Bank again next year.


Yeah, I'm gardening as well (hence the bronze spade in my signature), and pretty much for the same reasons.  My wife and I are in good shape car wise these days, so no real plans on buying something new for either of us, but I wouldn't say "No" if someone gave me a Porsche Cayman or something like that.  We're thinking to buy a house in the next year or two, so given I now have three unsecured credit cards and an SSL, gardening is the name of the game to boost mortgage scores.

Chapter 13:

  • Burned: AMEX, Chase, Citi, Wells Fargo, and South County Bank (now Bank of Southern California)
  • Filed: 26-Feb-2015
  • MoC: 01-Mar-2015
  • 1st Payment (posted): 23-Mar-2015
  • Last Payment (posted): 07-Feb-2020
  • Discharged: 04-Mar-2020
  • Closed: 23-Jun-2020

 

I categorically refuse to do AZEO!

In the proverbial sock drawer:
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Caliboy97
Contributor

Re: Post-discharge: Why can't I get approved for the same cards everyone else?

My first auto loan was 35k with 2k down at 8%. 

i just turned in that car and got 45K financed with 2k down again at 6% 3 2.5 months later. 

Bankruptcy Discharge 9/21/2020
Starting Scores

May Update (Moving)

Slow and Steady Rebuild. Around 15K in revolving credit at 2% and 45K Auto Loan! Hoping to start upping those limits over time.
Capital one Platinum and Quicksilver | Kia Financial 49K auto loan | Navy Fed Secure Card | OpenSky Secure Card | Schools First FCU Card | Grain account | KikOff Loan and credit account | Student Loans Perfect history 16K left
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