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AMEX BCP CLI....DENIED (but for interesting reason)

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Sevenfeet
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AMEX BCP CLI....DENIED (but for interesting reason)

Recently my wife and I refied the house pulling out some equity and paid off many of our credit cards, getting our overall utilization down to 31% and our Fico8 scores up to 741 (TU), 756 (EX), 759 (EQ). One of the card companies I had completely paid off was Amex where I have a Platinum card and a BCP card. The BCP card had gotten the 3X treatment years ago and had gotten a few silent CLIs up to $23K in the last year. So once we got the Amex cards paid off, I decided to swing for the fences for a $10K CLI for the BCP. Yeah, I know, probably too much but I thought they'd come back with a lower amount but not a total rejection. But rejection is what happened.

 

So when the letter explaining why came last week, I was a little surprised since I don't think I'd seen this as a reason. Amex said they denied the CLI because of the low payments I had made in recent months versus my total balance. This is true....I had been letting the BCP grow over time up to about $8k but I'd usually would let it creep up and them pay the whole thing off when I would get a large bonus. This allowed us to manage cash flow in the house at the expense of interest. But the home refi has out us on better footing and I thought I could get another CLI, but it was not to be.

 

So now I guess I have to wait another 90 days to try again. What I don't know if how long their algorithm is in regarding of payments versus balance. Right now my wife and I are paying it off monthly, often multiple times a month since it's a grocery shopping card....we just pay it off weekly on average.

 

Another card I have, the Citi Double Cash card did give me a modest CLI....8,310 to 10,810...hey, I'll take it.

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Re: AMEX BCP CLI....DENIED (but for interesting reason)

Thank You so much for this post! I have just turned 18 and as a newbie who has  just entered the credit card game recently,  your post is incredible helpful!  
I have to agree - using my credit cards like debit cards seems to give me the most positive results thus far in regards to my scores - I will have to circle back and let everyone know about CLI and paying in this regard. 
Best to you 

 

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Sevenfeet
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Re: AMEX BCP CLI....DENIED (but for interesting reason)


@Anonymous wrote:

Thank You so much for this post! I have just turned 18 and as a newbie who has  just entered the credit card game recently,  your post is incredible helpful!  
I have to agree - using my credit cards like debit cards seems to give me the most positive results thus far in regards to my scores - I will have to circle back and let everyone know about CLI and paying in this regard. 
Best to you 

 


Welcome to the board, and adult life! This is a chance for me to talk to my younger self. I did not get my first card until i was 23 and getting ready to leave college. At that time, I just had an ATM card (which was a newish thing back in the 80s). My spending cash largely came from on-campus jobs and occasionally from my mother. The first card, an Amex Green card was largely to prepare for my first job which I'd already accepted to begin in July of that year.

 

It sounds like you already have your first card or even cards. My advice is to slow down on procuring more. You have a long credit life ahead of you. And the most important task now is to begin a history. If you choose to use one of your cards, only do it knowing you have the cash on hand to pay it off immediately. You don't need to be carrying a balance except in emergencies.

 

Lots of what you read here (including this thread) is all about the "gamification" of credit. We play the game of getting new cards, credit line increases. It feels good to get new stuff, new limits, etc. But don't lose sight of what this is really all about: access to opportunity. Your next (maybe first?) car? That only happens due to opportunity. Your first job out of college? Some employers pull your credit to see what kind of risk you are to employing. I nearly lost a job opportunity in my late 20s since my credit was poor at the time. Student loans and refinancing them? Credit opportunity. You find your future spouse in college and want to buy your first house? You get the idea.

 

Again, your job right now is proper management of what you've got. At age 18 you don't need much. When I got my first card, the world wide web didn't exist....you waited for your statement in the mail and then mailed a hard check and hoped it got there on time. Now you can do everything on your phone. So if you use a card? Pay the card quickly before the statement date. Your "game" is to establish a pattern of good behavior that leads to future opportunity.

 

Good luck.

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Re: AMEX BCP CLI....DENIED (but for interesting reason)

Thanks again sevenfeet! I have a lot of trouble shopping due to not wanting to take my money out of the bank! So this whole "gamiFication" and living vicariously through credit cards is truly lost on me. I am not sure if it is just me or my generation, but I really like money 💰 in the bank and the excitement of purchasing stocks, mutual funds and bonds. Credit is just something I must do like washing my clothes? Call me crazy? I really have learned a lot on these forums and appreciated your post as well as others who are willing to share the good and the bad. So helpful - Be well

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