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Hi,
I'll get right down to it. I was extremely upset to receive a denial for the Chase Sapphire Preferred Card. I've had the Chase Freedom for 6 months with a limit of $2500. I've NEVER missed a payment, I always pay in full, and I keep my utilization under 10% at all times. I was hoping for a credit increase, but none so far. I travel quite a bit and considering the benefits of this card, along with my pleasant experience with Chase thus far, I decided to go for it. I received a denial letter. When I called the reconsideration line, she said that they just can't justify approving me because it's a minimum $5000 limit and my current credit history doesn't support the approval. All this despite the fact that I have no missed payments ever on my credit report, no delinquencies, average age of accounts is 9 years, I only have 2 hard inquiries on my TU report (which they pulled) and my scores are 716, 723, and 733.
So, feeling defeated and crushed, I check to see if I'm prequalified for any Amex cards. I was prequalified for four and was shocked to see that the Gold Premier Card was one of them. I know that the CSP is the comparable card, so if I was denied for that one, how am I prequalified for this one? Well I figured, "What the heck? What do you have to lose?" I applied and I WAS APPROVED INSTANTLY. I'm happy, but also confused. I really wanted the CSP because the annual fee is waived for the first year, is only $95 annually thereafter, and has slightly better benefits than the Amex Gold. At this point, I don't even know if I should apply for the CSP again anytime in the next couple years. Maybe I'll just stick with Amex as my major travel benefits card. IDK
So my question is: What gives? What's the deal with Chase? Are they the most strict of the CC companies?
Welcome to the forums!
Do you have any other card accounts? Chase will auto-deny the CSP if you have 5 new cards in the last 24 months.
Also, Amex charge cards are actually really easy to get approved for. You're required to pay in full every month, so they don't really care how you handle revolving balances.





















Chase is definitely more strict than AMEX from what I've seen, generally speaking. The only Chase card that I have is an IHG card because it's co-branded, when I simply applied for a Freedon I was denied on both the initial pull and the recon. AMEX, on the other hand, was willing to give me the BCP, PRG, and Delta cards all in a ridiculously short time period.
If you want in with Chase for something like the CSP then you'll probably want to just bide your time and ensure you don't go over their 5/24 rule.
@Anonymous wrote:Hi,
I'll get right down to it. I was extremely upset to receive a denial for the Chase Sapphire Preferred Card. I've had the Chase Freedom for 6 months with a limit of $2500. I've NEVER missed a payment, I always pay in full, and I keep my utilization under 10% at all times. I was hoping for a credit increase, but none so far. I travel quite a bit and considering the benefits of this card, along with my pleasant experience with Chase thus far, I decided to go for it. I received a denial letter. When I called the reconsideration line, she said that they just can't justify approving me because it's a minimum $5000 limit and my current credit history doesn't support the approval. All this despite the fact that I have no missed payments ever on my credit report, no delinquencies, average age of accounts is 9 years, I only have 2 hard inquiries on my TU report (which they pulled) and my scores are 716, 723, and 733.
So, feeling defeated and crushed, I check to see if I'm prequalified for any Amex cards. I was prequalified for four and was shocked to see that the Gold Premier Card was one of them. I know that the CSP is the comparable card, so if I was denied for that one, how am I prequalified for this one? Well I figured, "What the heck? What do you have to lose?" I applied and I WAS APPROVED INSTANTLY. I'm happy, but also confused. I really wanted the CSP because the annual fee is waived for the first year, is only $95 annually thereafter, and has slightly better benefits than the Amex Gold. At this point, I don't even know if I should apply for the CSP again anytime in the next couple years. Maybe I'll just stick with Amex as my major travel benefits card. IDK
So my question is: What gives? What's the deal with Chase? Are they the most strict of the CC companies?
Congrats on the PRG approval. The AMEX PRG is a charge card and not a revolver, so it reports differently on your CB reports, there's no pre set limit. I think your scores are great ! And I think eventually you will get the CSP. Try to grow your limit for the Freedom and then once you're within the minimum required limit for approval, try again. Have you considered applying for another AMEX card, you can apply for one Charge and one revolver, and they might use the same hard pull. and they might start you off with a higher credit line than the Freedom, Once approved, try gardening for a few mos. and then apply again for the Chase card that you like.
Ooh, these are fantastic tips! Thanks! I definitely feel more encouraged now.
I never thought about Amex using the same hard pull if I applied for another card. I was actually eyeing the Blue Cash Everyday card and love that it's a $0 annual fee. Perhaps I should try?
@Anonymous wrote:Ooh, these are fantastic tips! Thanks! I definitely feel more encouraged now.
I never thought about Amex using the same hard pull if I applied for another card. I was actually eyeing the Blue Cash Everyday card and love that it's a $0 annual fee. Perhaps I should try?
BCE was my first Amex in my current credit lifetime (don't ask me about 10 years ago).
BCE is a decent cash back card. 3% on groceries is not bad for no annual fee. However, there's a few things to note about Amex cash back cards.
Cash rewards can only be redeemed in $25 increments and only as statement credit. Also, it takes 2 statement cycles for cash back to show up in your rewards balance. That means you can't use rewards earned from current statement purchases to pay down the same statement's balance. You must either carry a balance to the next statement, or make new purchases in order to redeem rewards.
I really don't like these restrictions, and as soon as I get a chance to bump my rewards balance up to $50, I'm going to redeem it all and close the card.
As for HP vs. SP with Amex... they've become really lax lately about HPs. I have 5 Amex cards and only got one HP, the first one for the BCE. Every subsequent card was a SP approval. Not saying that's guaranteed, but many data points seem to suggest they are not doing HPs for existing cardmembers.
You can bundle multiple applications under one HP. However, according to the rules we know of, you can apply for only one revolving credit card. They will only approve one credit card in a 5 day period and 2 credit cards in a 90 day period. That said, we have seen evidence recently that they'll approve two credit cards in one day, but we don't know yet if that is evidence they have relaxed those rules across the board.
Those rules do not apply to charge cards (green, PRG, Plat, etc.). You can bundle those with a credit card under one HP and get as many as you like.
My second app with Amex was for the Everyday Preferred, Premier Rewards Gold, and Green cards, all on the same day (one credit and two charge). All were approved and I never got a HP.
If you're looking for a no annual fee Amex revolver that complements the PRG you just got, you may want to look into the EveryDay card. It earns MR points which can be pooled with the points you get from the PRG. The EveryDay card earns 2 points for groceries and 1 point for everything else, which may seem like no better than what you get with the PRG, but if you make more than 20 purchases in a month, those points get a 20% boost (i.e. 2.4X on groceries and 1.2X on other).





















It's not that Chase is a strict lender, it's that AMEX cards (besides the Centurion) are easy to get.
Your credit profile doesn't need to support a $5,000 limit to get an AMEX card, and the charge cards are less risky to hand out since you need to pay in full each month.
@Anonymous wrote:Hi,
I'll get right down to it. I was extremely upset to receive a denial for the Chase Sapphire Preferred Card. I've had the Chase Freedom for 6 months with a limit of $2500. I've NEVER missed a payment, I always pay in full, and I keep my utilization under 10% at all times. I was hoping for a credit increase, but none so far. I travel quite a bit and considering the benefits of this card, along with my pleasant experience with Chase thus far, I decided to go for it. I received a denial letter. When I called the reconsideration line, she said that they just can't justify approving me because it's a minimum $5000 limit and my current credit history doesn't support the approval. All this despite the fact that I have no missed payments ever on my credit report, no delinquencies, average age of accounts is 9 years, I only have 2 hard inquiries on my TU report (which they pulled) and my scores are 716, 723, and 733.
So, feeling defeated and crushed, I check to see if I'm prequalified for any Amex cards. I was prequalified for four and was shocked to see that the Gold Premier Card was one of them. I know that the CSP is the comparable card, so if I was denied for that one, how am I prequalified for this one? Well I figured, "What the heck? What do you have to lose?" I applied and I WAS APPROVED INSTANTLY. I'm happy, but also confused. I really wanted the CSP because the annual fee is waived for the first year, is only $95 annually thereafter, and has slightly better benefits than the Amex Gold. At this point, I don't even know if I should apply for the CSP again anytime in the next couple years. Maybe I'll just stick with Amex as my major travel benefits card. IDK
So my question is: What gives? What's the deal with Chase? Are they the most strict of the CC companies?
This is what Chase has been doing and no surprise here. Chase just does not like folks with thin files. If they see you have enough credit (own or via AU), they won't render more credit.
As many have said, AmEx is heavily promoting the PRG card now. It is a premium charge card. And AmEx is not shy away from people with thin files. AmEx is also aggressive in growing its "Blue" portfolio. Chase is just not the end of the world.
Regardless, we still need to use the credit line wisely and do not get into credit debt troubles. When that happens, AmEx is not here to save anyone....