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After reading a thread about a BoA approval, I went onto their website last night. I found they have a pre-qualification page so I used that to see if they have anything for me. Their Unlimited Cash Rewards card came up so I applied and was declinded. That's okay though. I was more surprised that the card came up as something I'd possibly be approved for over being declined for it. Then I applied for their secured card. I read it can graduate in 5-7 months so it would be worth putting up $5K for a short amount of time to come out on the other side with that limit or higher. Nope, that was declined too. I only took one hit on my EX report for those two apps.
I was thinking maybe doing the two apps so close to eachother caused the secured card to be declined so I tried giving them a call this morning. That was interesting! I kept going round and round with the automated messages because I don't have any accounts there. I tried two numbers/departments and multiple options. No way to get to a person without an account. At least none that I found. So, I stopped by a local branch while I was out. They said they wouldn't be able to see why the application was declined. The rep told me to wait to see what the letter says and there may be info about following up with them.
I'm fine if I don't get it but after reading multiple threads here, I thought I'd at least get the secured card. Oh, and can someone put a lock on the garden gate so I stay in there?
@masscredit wrote:After reading a thread about a BoA approval, I went onto their website last night. I found they have a pre-qualification page so I used that to see if they have anything for me. Their Unlimited Cash Rewards card came up so I applied and was declinded. That's okay though. I was more surprised that the card came up as something I'd possibly be approved for over being declined for it. Then I applied for their secured card. I read it can graduate in 5-7 months so it would be worth putting up $5K for a short amount of time to come out on the other side with that limit or higher. Nope, that was declined too. I only took one hit on my EX report for those two apps.
I was thinking maybe doing the two apps so close to eachother caused the secured card to be declined so I tried giving them a call this morning. That was interesting! I kept going round and round with the automated messages because I don't have any accounts there. I tried two numbers/departments and multiple options. No way to get to a person without an account. At least none that I found. So, I stopped by a local branch while I was out. They said they wouldn't be able to see why the application was declined. The rep told me to wait to see what the letter says and there may be info about following up with them.
I'm fine if I don't get it but after reading multiple threads here, I thought I'd at least get the secured card. Oh, and can someone put a lock on the garden gate so I stay in there?
BoA does not have a pre-qualification or pre-approved portal that would function in the same way as Chase, FNBO, etc. It's a CC recommendation portal, nothing else.
Sounds like you fell for their 'recommendations trap'. In the past, anyone could input things like Kitty Da Fluffens and get several card recommendations for Ms Fluffens.
As far as the garden of paradise, if your recent BK situation wasn't a lesson to be learned so that past habits don't place you back in the same boat, I dunno what is. Sure, a fresh start is always about new beginnings and forging a new financial journey depending on where you are in life. If you're about collecting cards again, then that's your own decision, but you also need to temper expectations and decide how risky or aggressive your approach to rebuilding will be going forward.
@FinStar wrote:As far as the garden of paradise, if your recent BK situation wasn't a lesson to be learned so that past habits don't place you back in the same boat, I dunno what is. Sure, a fresh start is always about new beginnings and forging a new financial journey depending on where you are in life. If you're about collecting cards again, then that's your own decision, but you also need to temper expectations and decide how risky or aggressive your approach to rebuilding will be going forward.
I'm just working on getting some decent cards under my belt. Preferably unsecured or solid secured cards that will graduate (why I was looking at BoA). My TD Bank card graduated last month and I'm thinking about getting out of my other secured cards soon. I live by not buying things unless I have the money for it and AZEO. I figure one more good card then let it ride. And if I have to start with it being secured then I'll go that route. I think I'm doing pretty good so far. Kind of aggressive but it's been working. This was my first denial.
Hold out until your in the 700 club. Many more doors will open up then. Keep applying in the mid 600's. You'll stay in the 600's. Got to let things grow for a while. That how I did it. Much easier having that lucky "7" as the first number.
@FireMedic1 wrote:Hold out until your in the 700 club. Many more doors will open up then. Keep applying in the mid 600's. You'll stay in the 600's. Got to let things grow for a while. That how I did it. Much easier having that lucky "7" as the first number.
Yeah, I know you're right. I have more than enough cards as a good foundation for my rebuild. But I'm still surprised I was declined for their secured card.
@masscredit wrote:
@FireMedic1 wrote:Hold out until your in the 700 club. Many more doors will open up then. Keep applying in the mid 600's. You'll stay in the 600's. Got to let things grow for a while. That how I did it. Much easier having that lucky "7" as the first number.
Yeah, I know you're right. I have more than enough cards as a good foundation for my rebuild. But I'm still surprised I was declined for their secured card.
I'm fairly certain they'll provide you with the reason(s) and perhaps you can share them with the community so others can learn from your experience.
An item to keep in mind, regardless if a financial institution offers a secured type of product whether building/rebuilding, it's still subject to each financial institution's UW criteria, regardless if you have the funds to secure the card. FIs of any size still take losses on secured products which is why some institutions can be selective even if going the secured route. Folks have reportedly been denied for secured cards from Discover, US Bank, ELAN, Citi, etc.
@FinStar wrote:I'm fairly certain they'll provide you with the reason(s) and perhaps you can share them with the community so others can learn from your experience.
An item to keep in mind, regardless if a financial institution offers a secured type of product whether building/rebuilding, it's still subject to each financial institution's UW criteria, regardless if you have the funds to secure the card. FIs of any size still take losses on secured products which is why some institutions can be selective even if going the secured route. Folks have reportedly been denied for secured cards from Discover, US Bank, ELAN, Citi, etc.
I'll definately post the reasons they provide and will probably follow up with them if the door is cracked open a little. I've read good things about BoA and wouldn't mind starting a relationship with them.
My post-Chapter 13 discharge situation with BofA was kinda-sorta the same.
When my discharge came through I waited six weeks or so for the dust to settle, and applied for a BofA secured credit card, denied, I appealed, and got denied again. What really irked me was both times the denial reasons came back claiming I was A) "About to file for bankruptcy", and B) I'd applied for one of their "Premium Rewards" credit cards.
Needless to say, the second denial was the last straw; I closed all eight of our accounts and moved them across the street (literally) to a TDBank branch; TD was not only happy to have our new business, but they also happily approved me for one of their secured cards with a $5,000 limit; in the 30(ish) months since I got that TDCash card it graduated to unsecured after 6-months and has since grown to a limit of $11,500. In my case, I'm glad BofA is in the rearview mirror.
Chapter 13:
I categorically refuse to do AZEO!
@masscredit wrote:
@FireMedic1 wrote:Hold out until your in the 700 club. Many more doors will open up then. Keep applying in the mid 600's. You'll stay in the 600's. Got to let things grow for a while. That how I did it. Much easier having that lucky "7" as the first number.
Yeah, I know you're right. I have more than enough cards as a good foundation for my rebuild. But I'm still surprised I was declined for their secured card.
@masscredit I completely understand what you were trying to do. It's risky and not everyone will agree with it, but it could bring rewards.
The day after my DC, I received an invite for the OLLO Rewards Visa. I took it. Within a few days I was pre-approved for Cap One Platinum. And a few days after that, approved for the (now discontinued) Jasper MC. I had never considered a secured card but read about the the BofA CCR Secured. I applied and got it just under 2 months post-DC. I already had a relationship with BofA dating back 17 years but had closed my accounts there in 2013 to consolidate at WF. Before my BK filing, I had re-opened checking and savings at BofA. 3.5 years later, after DC, I really think this helped me get my secured card. I'm not sharing this to make you feel bad but to share that I believe it to be a great card to have and worth the risk. Perhaps you can contact the BofA Exec Offices. I do not know the details of your situation but wanted to suggest that.
The week following my BofA CCR approval, I applied for the TD Bank Cash+ Secured. They make (made) you fund in person so I fortunately has a business trip to a city TD serves. No complaints about TD but they, and their card, are, in my opinion, also-rans. I know if I had to choose between BofA and TD, the choice of BoA will win out every time. Both cards graduated the same month...something like 7 months later, I can't recall. I also keep substantial checking and savings accounts at TD but nowhere near the size of my BofA accounts. I plan on staying with both.
@Jeffster1 Thanks for the info! I'm going to see what the denial letter says so I know which way to go if I try to pursue it more. At this point, I've already taken the inquiry on my EX so I midas well exhaust all options if there are any. For my rebuild, I figured I'd do what I had to to get a few secured cards with decent limits. Thought that would give me a boost and possibly avoid cards with toy limits. I read @Horseshoez posts about getting a secured card from TD Bank. At that time, DCU was my main bank. I had been with them for years. They are located in my state but the closest branch is 45 minutes away. It's rare that I need to go into a branch but it was inconvenient when I wanted to deposit cash. Had to find an affilliated bank locally. So, I figured I was going to have a fresh credit start so I'd change up my banking. Moved it all over to TD and funded a secured card with a $5K limit. This card became insecured a few weeks ago. It feels good to be back to having a big boy card with a decent limit. And now, 6 months after DC, I've been approved for a number of unsecured cards in the $2500-$5000 range.
Another thing about TD Bank, I mentioned I hardly go into a branch. I've made more branch deposits in 6 months than I made at DCU in 6 years. It's nice to have them in my area. There are also a number of BoAs around here too.