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@PrinceCorwin wrote:
Thanks to all the fatherly replies about concentrating on finding a new job first but I thought this forum was about credit decisions and that's what my question was targeting. You assume too much by assuming I'm not focusing on a new job and actually sound a bit condescending. I started this thread while sitting in the HR waiting room of a Houston refinery with about 20 other guys waiting for our names to be called to review our apps. And that's less than 48 hours after I was laid off.
So if you can't focus on my question and feel the need to make snide, non credit-related comments and under the radar attacks on my character, don't bother. When it comes to my career in the fabrication /construction industry and providing for my family, I don't need your advice. I have it covered. I need you for credit advice.
For those that have or will comment on my specific question without character judgment... Thank you. People like you have been a great help to me in establishing a decent credit profile.
Sorry to hear about the lay off. Glad to hear that you may have a replacement job soon. My first question was going to be if this is a seasonal lay off, as my company has to lay everyone off during the winter, but we are in the system and will come back (and some work part time while collecting and reporting the work). So in that case, I'd say you can apply and say you work for the same company.
But since that is not the case, don't get any new cards. The reason why is all apps ask for your employer. Right now, the answer is unemployed. And most creditors like to see stable work (been with the same company for 2 or so years). People aren't trying to judge you, but rather help you because of this fact. I hope that things work out for the best.
I don't know your circumstances, but if you need or want extra cash, see if you can cut, or downgrade some services (cable, cell phone, internet, home phone, etc). I have helped my family by switching from AT&T to TMobile (we get better service than we had, though I expected about the same) and saving $60 per month and another $55 by bringing the cable bill down by cutting to the basic subscription Dish Network provides (my parents refused to cut it completely and just get Netflix or Hulu). And I've talked with our internet provider to get them to keep the same rate for the next year until our contract is up, saving another $50 or so. Perhaps some of these options are available to you and your family. I don't write this to judge, but to offer some practical suggestions that may be better for the long term.
Decision made. No apps in the near future. Definately don't want to commit fraud by saying I'm still employed. Off to the garden for a year of two.
Next Question: When I was young, it seemed that the different cards were basically defined by the APR and CL they supplied. Nowadays it seems as if each card supplies that based on each individual's creditworthyness. So when I leave the garden eventually, are there any cards that definately give high CL / Low APR to applicants with very good credit (Which I intend to have by the time I do another app). By then my current Chase FU, AMEX BCE, and Discover It should have some pretty substantial CLs. Not really sure what the next tier of cards encompasses.
Any suggestions? (BTW, not interested in travel rewards as I don't ever travel)
@PrinceCorwin wrote:@quick History: 6 months ago, had fako @Anonymous. Applied for and received Cap1 QS1 and CreditOne Platinum both $300 CL. Used both responsibly and CreditOne increased to $500 after 4 months. I called Cap1 after 4 1/2 months and requested CLI. They gave me another $100 (400 total). Now I'm at the 6 month threshold for the auto increase for Cap1. Nothing yet but still waiting. In that six month time, Fako went to 646 (tu and eq) and fico 702 (ex). Two weeks ago, went on a mini app spree and applied and received Amex BCE ($1000), Discover It ($2500) and Chase FU ($4500). Hard Inquiries brought scores to 646(tu), 643(eq) and 698(ex)
Now on to my question: I was laid off two days ago. Technically, I know I'm at the 5/24 rule for Chase but CK and Ex are not showing the new cards yet. I'm a welder/pipefitter, so I'm pretty sure I'll get another job... just not sure how long it may take. Unemployment benefits as well as wife's soc sec will cover rent and bills. New cards will possible be needed to cover groceries and gas until I get work. Utilization may go up, affecting scores and my take months to pay down after new job. Should I apply for another card now before the new cards show up, possibly even another chase card? What would you do in my situation? BTW, all balances right now are 0 or near 0
@Aduke1122 wrote:
Hey op sorry to hear about your job loss , ppl making comments about securing employment I'm sure are only doing so to try to offer sound advice . If it were me I would not app for nothing else right now as you don't want to put yourself in a bad situation and in debt more than you can pay . If you charge them up the more your monthly min payments will be . My fiancé is a welder also , he works for a Company called Republic and I'm certain they have lots of locations down your way if you want to check it out . He makes good money . And it's steady work , been with them for 2 years and was with their competing company for 3 years before we relocated. Good luck to you and I hope you don't take my comment as being rude of assuming , and these folks on here are a great bunch of ppl even if they tell us things we don't want to hear sometimes , it's only for the best .
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@CreditInspired wrote:
Just another thought. I personally don't recall being asked who my employer is -- only what my household income is, which can be almost anything: UI, spousal support, education grants, child support, Social Security, disability, parent's income if one has access to it, etc. The list goes on and on, so IMHO, I don't think you would be committing any fraud. Just my 2 cents.
It varies from lender to lender, so i don't think there's a hard and fast rule. Some just ask you for your household income (most in my own experience ask for gross, but Synchrony asks for net). Several do ask you for your employer's name and/or the type of work you do. Some lenders will also ask you how much you pay in housing costs per month, whether rental or mortgage, so I expect they subtract that from your overall monthly income to get a figure on how much you have after that to pay other expenses such as insurance, utilities, food, clothing, and other things including, of course, credit card bills.