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Thanks for the info @turkey310 ! How long did you have your first card before you applied for the second and third? What were your scores at the time? If you don't mind me asking... and How long did it take you to get a CLI on any of the cards? I'm probably going to go for another QS1.. I just hate taking the HP on all 3 bureaus. Also, what were your scores when you applied for the Barclays and Chase Slate? Any baddies on your reports?
@Anonymous wrote:@Anonymous for the info @Anonymous ! How long did you have your first card before you applied for the second and third? What were your scores at the time? If you don't mind me asking... and How long did it take you to get a CLI on any of the cards? I'm probably going to go for another QS1.. I just hate taking the HP on all 3 bureaus. Also, what were your scores when you applied for the Barclays and Chase Slate? Any baddies on your reports?
@Anonymous I opened my first card in September 2014 with a SL of $500, Platinum. I then opened my 2nd card in Nov 2014, QS ONE with a SL of $500. Applied for the 3rd card in January 2015, Platinum with a SL of $500 as well. All three cards were in the 'credit steps' program, which means after 5 on time payments, you're eligible for a CLI. My first card I got back in September, got the first CLI within 3 months of having the card. Went from $500 -> $1500. Once that account matured past the credit steps program, I receive an auto CLI in March 2015 for another +$500, bringing me to $2000. This was the exact same process for all 3 of my cards, first CLI within 3 months then the credit steps bump at the end of the 5 month thing (closer to 6-7 months).
Long story short, in the time that I've had the capital one cards, I've upgraded all to $0 annual fee and they ALL earn 1.5% back. 2 out of 3 are QS1, and my other is still a platinum but still earns 1.5% back. You don't really have to 'switch' to the QS1 for the 1.5% back, you can just call and ask them if they can give you the rewards on all your cards, as I did and which they honored. My scores at the time when I got my first Capital One were in the high 500's. Once I added the first account, I passed the 600 mark and was near 600-610 on my accounts. Around this time Nov/Dec 2014, I applied for Barclay/Chase/Amazon store card all were denials. Barclays said they wanted to see more history and Chase flat out said NO and NO.
I let my accounts age a bit, fast forward to March 2015, my scores rose to 620s-630s, I got ballsy and applied for the Barclays card again. Instant denial online so i called the recon number. I explained my situation to them and sweet talked my way in, approved for $1500 after a nice chat. I applied for the Amazon store card again in March, and BAM! Instant approval for $600 when the last time I tried (3-4 months prior) I got denied. As for Chase, I applied again in March (same time as my barclay and amazon) and got denied as well. I called to recon and spoke to someone for almost 20 minutes, pleaded my case, put on hold back and forth, long story short...$500 approval to start.
At the time, I had at least 8-12 INQ on my reports from applying for numerous cards in a short span, also not knowing capital ones 3 HP rule, I applied for venture twice last year and got denied, so I took a lot of hits just from capital one alone. I currently have 3 accounts in collections and 1 late payment. The accounts in collections are from 2009, so they are due to fall off April 2016. I have a 30 day late on my old First Premier card, which is 5 years old on the late payment. They always ask me about these during recon, I'm just honest with them and it can be a hit or miss...sometimes I had to call 2-3x to find the right person.
Hope this helps you..
I would say the runner up after Capital One as far as being more forgiving, is Barclays. They are rebuilder friendly and want to see you do well. They always compliment my progress and tell me I'm doing a great job, keep it up and we'll have more to offer you..But Capital one is by far the best and easiest to obtain. My gf was approved with scores in the high 400s with Capital One, so go figure..
Good luck to you
@turkey310 thanks so much! All this info is super helpful! I'm in a similar situation- I'm glad you had recon success with Barclays and Chase! That definitely gives me hope. I applied for the Freedom and was obviously denied- even called recon with no luck. It's good to hear that you got CLI on all of your Cap1 cards at the 3 month mark- did you get them to a high utilization and then pay them off? Or did you keep your util under a certain percentage? I've been using mine a lot then paying off the balances multiple times per month.. not sure if that's the way to go but I've been reading that if you use them a lot and pay them off your more likely to get an increase quicker? Not sure if that's true..
@Anonymous wrote:@Anonymous thanks so much! All this info is super helpful! I'm in a similar situation- I'm glad you had recon success with Barclays and Chase! That definitely gives me hope. I applied for the Freedom and was obviously denied- even called recon with no luck. It's good to hear that you got CLI on all of your Cap1 cards at the 3 month mark- did you get them to a high utilization and then pay them off? Or did you keep your util under a certain percentage? I've been using mine a lot then paying off the balances multiple times per month.. not sure if that's the way to go but I've been reading that if you use them a lot and pay them off your more likely to get an increase quicker? Not sure if that's true..
Chase was my hardest to recon...they made me feel so uncomfortable answering all the questions..what about this??? what about that??? why? when? where? I felt like I was applying for a job with the CIA..
I did use the cards a lot. Even with the $500 limit, I would charge up whatever I wanted for my everyday purcahses (redbulls, gas, food, etc.) just like I would use my debit card. So with that being said, I didn't want to use an excessive amount of my credit putting my util high, so I would make several payments a month, 3-4 at times. I would either PIF or pay a good chunk of my charges (80-90%) or so. I figured why not earn 1.5% back on my everyday purchases since I never keep cash on me anyways, this worked out for me. But it is always good practice to keep your cards under 30% if you can. I can't say if using it more frequently and/or more charges will get you a CLI quicker, but I'm sure it'll help them in determining your CLI amount, if and when they do give you one.
But you also have to realize, these are 'starter' cards and won't see HUGE increases or huge lines, as there normal tier cards get. Do what you're doing, use it up, pay it off, wash rinse and repeat, this is the best practice. Give capital One at least 4-6 months and you'll be in a better place for Barclays, since even if you are rebuilding, they still would like to see some 'rebuilding' history, not just 2-3 months worth, my 2 cents..good luck!
@turkey310 Your 2cents has been so helpful! Thanks for all the good info! Yeah Chase was pretty harsh- like c'mon lady, I bet your credit isn't perfect- chill out haha
I've been using my cards like debit cards too, paying them off multiple times. I'm just hoping I don't get caught between paying off the balances and Cap1 reports my utilization as like 80% haha. I'll definitely try again with Barclays once my scores get a little better and some of these collections fall off- 2 should be off within a month or two.
Thanks again for all the info!
Before you apply for another Cap1 card, I would look at credit unions. If you don't already have a relationship with a credit union, now is a good time to start. Before joining, check to see how lenient they are with approving credit cards. Some will work with you. Others are every bit (or more) conservative than banks. If you don't have a good local CU, try Penn State's credit union. I don't know anything about them, but there is a good chance they will work with you to pay your tuition. Looking on their website, they have educational (student) loans available. The website doesn't say that you have to be a full time student, but it could be in the fine print.
Hopefully, you can find a decent CU credit card or educational loan of some type. Then you can add another Capital One credit card to help your utilization. From what I have read Cap1 isn't very INQ sensitive, but their sub-prime cards never get very high credit limits.
At one time I had 3 QS1 cards. Such a pain to manage all the small limits and timing of the AF.
Finally got into the prime territory and waiting until the AFs roll around on the old cards to close them. I don't want the CLI excuse to be "you have too many accounts and available credit with us." I want my Venture and QS to be in the 5 digits by the end of the year.