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I have two cards with Chase. Freedom and Disney. $1,000 & $3,000. Usually always PIF except when I get the special financing from a Disney trip. I have had both cards 2 years.
Called today to see about a CLI with the Freedom. This is my primary card due to the 5% catergories and always 2%. I usually have to pay it off once or twice mid cycle to free up space on it. My scores are in the low 700 except for TU which is 673. A few things have not updated on it TU yet. The guy I talk with at Chase says they need to pull a report. I asked which bureua as that will determine if I go ahead or not. He said EXPERIAN. I gave my ok. He ask how much I want, I tell him a total of $6,000. He immediately tells me I am declined due to too high of revolving balances. Hmmm. I said ok and knew right away I would call the back door to recon. This is what I had to do 2 years ago when I got the card. Hang up and see I have an alert. New Inq from TU!!!! Click and see it is Chase. Grrrr.
Call recon # and told same thing - to high balance on revolving. I explained that 2 of the cards were at 0% interest and the other 2 were in fact paid off. She said she is concerend about the Lowe's. Has $889 balance on $800 cl. I explained that it was at zero and that I ordered something and the sales person ordered wrong and than ordered the right but it put me over the limit but once the wrong came in they immediately credited my account and than I paid off what I really bought as I use the card for the 5% discount you get when buying (this is updated on EX and EQ). She asked permission to pull another report. I said no as the first guy told me he was pulling Experian and really pulled TU. She said they don't have control over what is pulled that the computer automatically does it. I told her no, don't pull again I don't want to rack up a bunch of inq. She said no one really looks at ing and you wouldn't get declined for having too many. I pointed out that when I first got the Freedom I was infact declined due to too many inq and I had to call and explain they were from mortgage shopping. She than said "Yes, they often decline for having too many ing." What??????? Did you just not tell me that ing don't matter. It was like talking in circles with her and the other guy.
Next she suggest I call back within 30 days and they can review again. I asked if this would involve another credit pull and she said "yes, but it wouldn't count as another." I asked how that would be and she said it would be within the same 30 days but they would pull from something other than TU. I politely declined and said I really do not want to rack up any more inq. She than said to wait 30 days as TU updates my file only once every 30 days. I corrected her and said , No TU updates as often as creditor tell them to. She said no, when we submit they just hold onto the data and do all updates just once a month. I informed her that I do have credit monitoring service and I get updates multiple times a week and sometimes within the same day. I gave the example that Chase updates on teh 5th of each month, Discover on the 8th and Lowe's on the 11th. She proceeded to tell me that I was wrong and she was an expert and that TU only updates a person's file once a month after they get all the information from the various creditors as it takes to long to update daily as the data becomes available.
GRRRR. I love my Freedome card but paying it multiple times a month is becoming a pain. What is the next best rewards card? I am done with Chase Freedom and need better go to card for daily spending.
Wow, they must be hiring their csr's from the dmv.
@Kathy4NU wrote:I have two cards with Chase. Freedom and Disney. $1,000 & $3,000. Usually always PIF except when I get the special financing from a Disney trip. I have had both cards 2 years.
Called today to see about a CLI with the Freedom. This is my primary card due to the 5% catergories and always 2%. I usually have to pay it off once or twice mid cycle to free up space on it. My scores are in the low 700 except for TU which is 673. A few things have not updated on it TU yet. The guy I talk with at Chase says they need to pull a report. I asked which bureua as that will determine if I go ahead or not. He said EXPERIAN. I gave my ok. He ask how much I want, I tell him a total of $6,000. He immediately tells me I am declined due to too high of revolving balances. Hmmm. I said ok and knew right away I would call the back door to recon. This is what I had to do 2 years ago when I got the card. Hang up and see I have an alert. New Inq from TU!!!! Click and see it is Chase. Grrrr.
Call recon # and told same thing - to high balance on revolving. I explained that 2 of the cards were at 0% interest and the other 2 were in fact paid off. She said she is concerend about the Lowe's. Has $889 balance on $800 cl. I explained that it was at zero and that I ordered something and the sales person ordered wrong and than ordered the right but it put me over the limit but once the wrong came in they immediately credited my account and than I paid off what I really bought as I use the card for the 5% discount you get when buying (this is updated on EX and EQ). She asked permission to pull another report. I said no as the first guy told me he was pulling Experian and really pulled TU. She said they don't have control over what is pulled that the computer automatically does it. I told her no, don't pull again I don't want to rack up a bunch of inq. She said no one really looks at ing and you wouldn't get declined for having too many. I pointed out that when I first got the Freedom I was infact declined due to too many inq and I had to call and explain they were from mortgage shopping. She than said "Yes, they often decline for having too many ing." What??????? Did you just not tell me that ing don't matter. It was like talking in circles with her and the other guy.
Next she suggest I call back within 30 days and they can review again. I asked if this would involve another credit pull and she said "yes, but it wouldn't count as another." I asked how that would be and she said it would be within the same 30 days but they would pull from something other than TU. I politely declined and said I really do not want to rack up any more inq. She than said to wait 30 days as TU updates my file only once every 30 days. I corrected her and said , No TU updates as often as creditor tell them to. She said no, when we submit they just hold onto the data and do all updates just once a month. I informed her that I do have credit monitoring service and I get updates multiple times a week and sometimes within the same day. I gave the example that Chase updates on teh 5th of each month, Discover on the 8th and Lowe's on the 11th. She proceeded to tell me that I was wrong and she was an expert and that TU only updates a person's file once a month after they get all the information from the various creditors as it takes to long to update daily as the data becomes available.
GRRRR. I love my Freedome card but paying it multiple times a month is becoming a pain. What is the next best rewards card? I am done with Chase Freedom and need better go to card for daily spending.
Sorry that happened to you Kathy4NU. The good news is with your current scores you do have options. I really am happy with Discover, but of course you have options everything from the BOA products, even Quicksilver gives back 1.5% on everything then there's Citi DC of course. I'd suggest you give it some thought and scutinize whomever you decide to app with because of course you deserve to be treated well.
I have a feeling that the DMV has a few higher IQ indivudals working for them compared to the two I talked with today.
I also have the Discover IT card. I do like the 5% from Chase a little better but not that much. I just asked for a CLI with my Discover card and with a soft pull was bumped up to $4250. This will become my everyday card. Freedom has a new residence in my sock draw.
We have a big 3 week trip planned to Alaska in June which will result in lots of restaurant charges... I was hoping to use the Freedom to really rack up some credit for future airline tickets. It looks like Discover also has 5% this quarter on eating out.
Oh good grief -- that must have been a frustrating phone call. The sad thing is that before I found MyFico, CSRs would tell me things and I would just take it as gospel because I didn't know any better. Maybe we should suggest that Chase CSRs join MyFico?
What about calling back and asking if you can apply for CSP? They are usually a minimum $5k limit and when I got my Freedom, they used they same pull for my CSP -- might be worth a shot since you've already taken the TU pull. BTW, I got my CSP with a pretty high SL ($24K) with a TU 687 -- your 673 is close. CSP doesn't have the 5% bonus categories, but you get 2% on dining all the time.
You should contact Chase EO, have them review the request,ask if they can SP to see the update, or you can call recon again
Grrrr. I just received a myfico warning of a new inquiry. Chase did in fact pull Experian after I told them no to pulling a second report.
Why would they pull a second report? The lady asked permission and I told her NO I didn't want another one pulled. Damnit!
I am sorry for your trouble with Chase. Posts like this make me SO SO tempted to close my account with them. There is NO REASON what so ever for the, to be doing a hard pull. They can see the EXACT SAME info and entire report on a soft pull. Sometimes I honestly think they do it to purposely put a inquiry on your credit and to drop your score a few points. Amex does soft pulls and they are WAY more prime than Chase. Even Discover nowadays is doing soft pulls. Chase won't budge either. My GF mailed there Office of the President/CEO and even THEY said "It will place a hard check on your credit report". Chase is a joke. There "Lending Department" credit analysts are rude as you know what to. When I called them to verify my new account all I asked was for a extra $500 cause I was going to be using the card a lot and PIF and she said "Chase does not give more credit to PEOPLE in your credit case. I was like WOW you do not talk to ANY customer like that. You wanna make your customers fell welcomed and warm not like a piece of crap.
That sucks. I've never requested CLIs with Chase before and I guess this is the reason. I find it much easier to just app for new cards from them.