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What SP info does AMEX gather?

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MontegoMack
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What SP info does AMEX gather?

When a credit card company (AMEX is where my curiosity is) does a SP for an mail or pre-qual offer, what information are they gathering from your CR?

 

AAoA

# of TLs

Lates

Collections

Open/Closed accounts

CLs

 

What is it?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

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Anonymous
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Re: What SP info does AMEX gather?

All of the above.  

A soft pull and a hard pull don't really differ in what information is gathered, they just differ in intent.

 

A soft pull is one made for promotional purposes (credit card pre-approvals fall under this as it is considered marketing rather than an actual "sale"), for background checks, for your current creditors to keep an eye on you, etc.  They do not represent "hard" offers of credit - since all pre-approvals come with the standard "we may decide not offer you credit if..." disclaimers.  This is also the type of inquiry that appears when you check your own credit.  

 

A hard pull is made by a lender whom you have contacted seeking credit (you've made an application).  They pull your credit with a tag that indicates they are going to use the information to make a "hard" offer of credit (assuming they like what they see).  These are the ones that affect your score, because they are the ones that indicate you are actively seeking credit.  If a potential lender sees several of these hard pulls but you have no new accounts to show for them, they know you are agressively seeking credit without yet finding success, and it makes you a higher risk, as reflected in your lowered score.

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Berk
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Re: What SP info does AMEX gather?

My understanding is that banks get info for potential customers two ways:

 

1.  They pay a CRA for a list of names that fit their specific criteria.

 

2. They do a soft pull and can see the same info that you see when you do a soft pull of your own report.

 

If my understanding is not correct I (and I'm sure the OP) would appreciate being corrected.

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Anonymous
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Re: What SP info does AMEX gather?

1.  They pay a CRA for a list of names that fit their specific criteria. Yes, this is possible and these are "promotional" soft pull lists.  These are commonly used to generate mass mailings - the "you're invited to apply" letters more likely than actual pre-approvals, which are generally more personalized.  Generally a person will never even know these pulls have been done unless they scour their reports looking for them.

 

2. They do a soft pull and can see the same info that you see when you do a soft pull of your own report.  This is the type, again coded "promotional" until you put in a full application, that comes from visiting a lender's website and going through the pre-qualification process - Capital One, Amex, Discover, Citi, Chase, any of the others who offer "check for prequalified offers" on their sites do these.  They are more personalized - in the sense that they just pull your individual informaion - but some lenders' sites look harder at it than others (some have the "anybody and their dog gets results" reputation, while others are considered reliable pre-qualifications).  Once you actually apply, you will be subject to a hard pull - they will confirm your information and since it will be coded as a "hard offer of credit" it will be a hard pull.

 

In either case, anyone doing soft pulls ("promotional" when dealing with lenders or insurance companies doing prequalification, "account issuer" if your bank or lender is just watching over you, "background check" when dealing with leasing offices or employers, or "personal check" when checking your own credit, whether you intiate it or someone like myFICO or CreditKarma or whoever does it for you) has access to the entire scope of information listed above by the OP - accounts, lates, collections, age, etc.  The list buyers probably don't use all of the above for parameters when they order a list, but soft pullers doing pre-qualifications likely will.

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