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ojefferyo
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Re: Recovery in site - what next??

They will know the minute you pay them and they will start their collections and calling all over

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Message 7 of 30
Anonymous
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Re: Recovery in site - what next??

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

 

Start collections over again?  

Isn't that illegal after a bankruptcy has been declared?  Each creditor is banned from attempting to collect.

Please explain further....

 

So the Experian credit watch product is crap?  

Today I have a 743(Eq)  772(T)  792(Ex)

 

Despite a good score and nothing negative...  I stil l have some things holding me back.

1) "No recent non-mortage balance information."

2) "Too few accounts currently paid as agreed."

3) "Lack of recent retail account information."

4) "Length of time revolving accounts have been established."

 

How do I mitigate these? 

I have a 10k personal LOC, a $1500 secured card, a $6500 unsecured card.  ZERO balances.

Should I buy some stuff?

Perhaps give myself a small loan and pay it back over a few months?

I don't think carrying a balance over to prove payment should be part of the "solution"

Nor should getting a "retail" card of any kind. 

 

Thanks for the info on the credit cards.  I agree.  Just have to wait for each so I can hit the spend.

 

Message 8 of 30
TRC_WA
Senior Contributor

Re: Recovery in site - what next??


@Anonymous wrote:

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

 

Start collections over again?  

Isn't that illegal after a bankruptcy has been declared?  Each creditor is banned from attempting to collect.

Please explain further....

 

So the Experian credit watch product is crap?  

Today I have a 743(Eq)  772(T)  792(Ex)

 

Despite a good score and nothing negative...  I stil l have some things holding me back.

1) "No recent non-mortage balance information."

2) "Too few accounts currently paid as agreed."

3) "Lack of recent retail account information."

4) "Length of time revolving accounts have been established."

 

How do I mitigate these? 

I have a 10k personal LOC, a $1500 secured card, a $6500 unsecured card.  ZERO balances.

Should I buy some stuff?

Perhaps give myself a small loan and pay it back over a few months?

I don't think carrying a balance over to prove payment should be part of the "solution"

Nor should getting a "retail" card of any kind. 

 

Thanks for the info on the credit cards.  I agree.  Just have to wait for each so I can hit the spend.

 


1) Not carrying a balance counts against you. You want 1 card reporting a 1-9% balance with the rest at $0 for optimum FICO scoring. Speaking of that, do you know your FICO scores... not the FAKO scores from EX?

2) Do you have any old IIB accounts reporting late payments? Is your report free and clear? Do you have any lates now?

3) You don't have a store CC account? 3 revolving CC accounts would help your scores.

4) Your non-secured accounts are new. You need to let them age.

Credit rebuilding is a marathon... not a race. 18 months ago I started with a single $1000 CapOne card... and now I have $40k in cards.

FICO8 current as of : 4-6-25 EQ: 736 TU: 728 EX: 722
Hard INQs last 12 months: EQ: 0 | TU: 0 | EX: 0
Verizon Visa $8500 Amex Delta Reserve $10,000 Care Credit $18,000
NFCU CashRewards $7500 Apple Card $7000 Best Buy $8000 Amazon $5000
NFCU auto loan (2022 Ford Bronco Sport Badlands - Cactus Gray) 6.95%
NFCU motorcycle loan (2024 Harley Davidson Road Glide - Alpine Green & Chrome) 9.45%
Total CL: $64,000 --- Total CC UTI: 31% --- AAoA: 6.5 years --- Income: $200k
Last app: 4-6-24
Message 12 of 30
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Recovery in site - what next??


@Anonymous wrote:

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

 

Start collections over again?  

Isn't that illegal after a bankruptcy has been declared?  Each creditor is banned from attempting to collect.

Please explain further....

 

So the Experian credit watch product is crap?  

Today I have a 743(Eq)  772(T)  792(Ex)

 

Despite a good score and nothing negative...  I stil l have some things holding me back.

1) "No recent non-mortage balance information."

2) "Too few accounts currently paid as agreed."

3) "Lack of recent retail account information."

4) "Length of time revolving accounts have been established."

 

How do I mitigate these? 

I have a 10k personal LOC, a $1500 secured card, a $6500 unsecured card.  ZERO balances.

Should I buy some stuff?

Perhaps give myself a small loan and pay it back over a few months?

I don't think carrying a balance over to prove payment should be part of the "solution"

Nor should getting a "retail" card of any kind. 

 

Thanks for the info on the credit cards.  I agree.  Just have to wait for each so I can hit the spend.

 


Within the past week or so Experian.com has started giving real fico scores so you should be okay to stick with one of their products if that's what you have.
Message 13 of 30
NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Recovery in site - what next??

I don't know the specifics of BK, but it seems likely if they tried to close that box you don't want to go prying off the lid. Thus, no paying AMEX is good advice.

You may like Delta SkyMiles, so just maintain a Delta SkyMiles account. The AMEX Delta card is not necessary to do that.

 

As for next steps, you have two decent cards, PenFed in particular, so just work with that, put regular groceries and gas spend on it and PIF. Time is your friend. And "Carrying A Balance" can mean just letting the monthly statement print with the current month charges, then PIF by the statement date.

 

A CU LOC is a possibility. I opened one a few months ago for no other reason than to get a 'Term Loan" on my CR. I have a mortgage already, this just rounds out the types of credit. Paying it back from the cash draw.

 

Good luck!

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
Message 17 of 30
Anonymous
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Despite decent scores - Negatives holding me back.

CH7 gone in May 2014.

 

Experian credit watch

743(Eq)  772(T)  792(Ex)

 

$1500 secured (2007)

$6500 unsecured Visa Platinum (Dec 2014)

$10,000 Personal LOC (Dec 2014)

 

I never carry a balance.

Considering a few more cards...  dif thread.

 

*could not increase LOC futher due to the following.

 

Despite a good score and nothing negative...  I have some things holding me back.

1) "No recent non-mortage balance information."

2) "Too few accounts currently paid as agreed."

3) "Lack of recent retail account information."

4) "Length of time revolving accounts have been established."

 

What is the best way to address each of these?

Message 9 of 30
TRC_WA
Senior Contributor

Re: Despite decent scores - Negatives holding me back.

1) Not carrying a balance counts against you.  You want 1 card reporting a 1-9% balance with the rest at $0 for optimum FICO scoring.  Speaking of that, do you know your FICO scores... not the FAKO scores from EX?

 

2) Do you have any old IIB accounts reporting late payments?  Is your report free and clear?  Do you have any lates now?

 

3) You don't have a store CC account?  3 revolving CC accounts would help your scores.

 

4) Your non-secured accounts are new.  You need to let them age.

 

Credit rebuilding is a marathon... not a race.  18 months ago I started with a single $1000 CapOne card... and now I have $40k in cards.

FICO8 current as of : 4-6-25 EQ: 736 TU: 728 EX: 722
Hard INQs last 12 months: EQ: 0 | TU: 0 | EX: 0
Verizon Visa $8500 Amex Delta Reserve $10,000 Care Credit $18,000
NFCU CashRewards $7500 Apple Card $7000 Best Buy $8000 Amazon $5000
NFCU auto loan (2022 Ford Bronco Sport Badlands - Cactus Gray) 6.95%
NFCU motorcycle loan (2024 Harley Davidson Road Glide - Alpine Green & Chrome) 9.45%
Total CL: $64,000 --- Total CC UTI: 31% --- AAoA: 6.5 years --- Income: $200k
Last app: 4-6-24
Message 11 of 30
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Despite decent scores - Negatives holding me back.

1) Not carrying a balance counts against you.  You want 1 card reporting a 1-9% balance with the rest at $0 for optimum FICO scoring.  Speaking of that, do you know your FICO scores... not the FAKO scores from EX?

1-9% with one of them. interesting.   Which?  The CC or LOC? Does it matter?

Would giving myself a small loan help (revolving or installment)?

I've been considering a CC that give scores.  Is getting a MyFICO product better than the Experian monitoring product?

What's the best way to monitor true scores nowadays?

 

2) Do you have any old IIB accounts reporting late payments?  Is your report free and clear?  Do you have any lates now?

Nope, Clear, Nope.        

 

3) You don't have a store CC account?  3 revolving CC accounts would help your scores.

No retail credit cards.  Got any suggestions?  I was going to AVOID those as the rewards are tied to just the store.

I've read (way in the past) where retail cards hurt more than (visa/mastercard) would because they are retail.

 

4) Your non-secured accounts are new.  You need to let them age.

Right...Figured.

 

Credit rebuilding is a marathon... not a race.  18 months ago I started with a single $1000 CapOne card... and now I have $40k in cards.

Marathon.  Agreed. 

 

Thanks for the feedback!

Message 16 of 30
TRC_WA
Senior Contributor

Re: Despite decent scores - Negatives holding me back.


@Anonymous wrote:

1) Not carrying a balance counts against you.  You want 1 card reporting a 1-9% balance with the rest at $0 for optimum FICO scoring.  Speaking of that, do you know your FICO scores... not the FAKO scores from EX?

1-9% with one of them. interesting.   Which?  The CC or LOC? Does it matter?  The CC.

Would giving myself a small loan help (revolving or installment)? Having an installment loan helps your profile.

I've been considering a CC that give scores.  Is getting a MyFICO product better than the Experian monitoring product?  IMHO yes.  

What's the best way to monitor true scores nowadays?  I use MyFICO 3 Bureau monitoring.. $19.95 a month.

 

2) Do you have any old IIB accounts reporting late payments?  Is your report free and clear?  Do you have any lates now?

Nope, Clear, Nope.        Not sure why you would get that denial then.

 

3) You don't have a store CC account?  3 revolving CC accounts would help your scores.

No retail credit cards.  Got any suggestions?  I was going to AVOID those as the rewards are tied to just the store.

I've read (way in the past) where retail cards hurt more than (visa/mastercard) would because they are retail.  Yes that's true... which is why I avoid toy limit store cards like Target, Gap, Buckle... etc.. etc.. etc...  I have 3 store cards, Nordstrom, Best Buy, Walmart.  I shop regularly at the first 2, rarely at Walmart.  Still, I have them because they can be upgraded to MC/VISA down the road.

 

4) Your non-secured accounts are new.  You need to let them age.

Right...Figured.

 

Credit rebuilding is a marathon... not a race.  18 months ago I started with a single $1000 CapOne card... and now I have $40k in cards.

Marathon.  Agreed. 

 

Thanks for the feedback!


Good luck.

FICO8 current as of : 4-6-25 EQ: 736 TU: 728 EX: 722
Hard INQs last 12 months: EQ: 0 | TU: 0 | EX: 0
Verizon Visa $8500 Amex Delta Reserve $10,000 Care Credit $18,000
NFCU CashRewards $7500 Apple Card $7000 Best Buy $8000 Amazon $5000
NFCU auto loan (2022 Ford Bronco Sport Badlands - Cactus Gray) 6.95%
NFCU motorcycle loan (2024 Harley Davidson Road Glide - Alpine Green & Chrome) 9.45%
Total CL: $64,000 --- Total CC UTI: 31% --- AAoA: 6.5 years --- Income: $200k
Last app: 4-6-24
Message 23 of 30
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Despite decent scores - Negatives holding me back.

Do those retail  cards need to be strictly for THOSE stores? and not a visa/mastercard?

Hmm..So then..

 

a SEARS card...not a Sears Visa/Mc

an Amazon card...not Amazon Visa/Mc

 

I wonder what the best ones are for that?

Gas cards?

 

Best Buy and Walmart seem worth investigating.

 

Message 25 of 30
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