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Goldman Sachs/Apple Card and their Algorithm

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Goldman Sachs/Apple Card and their Algorithm

After nine long months of attempting to obtain this card, I finally was approved yesterday for a credit limit of $2,500 at their highest APR.

 

Their algorithm definitely doesn't make any sense.

 

My first attempt at this card was 11/24, at the time they prompted me to upload my ID, which I lost the prior week. That application expired and I attempted the following month to reapply but started to face the issues (duplicate applications, ID not properly uploading, iCloud account not matching wallet.)

 

12/11 - Denied - Unable to verify ID (ID didn't properly upload)

12/13 - Denied - Unable to verify ID (iCloud accounts not matching) 

I applied again after I was advised by support after they "fixed my issues"

12/13 - Denied - "You have applied a number of times so we cannot verify the information you have provided at this time."

02/13 - Denied -  "You have applied a number of..."

 

05/19 - Denied - Too many inquires - I only had two inquires and, my score at the time was 718 with 23% UTI. 

06/25 - Denied - Too many inquires - Still only two inquires, score 763, 8% UTI 

 

07/05 - APPROVED 

 

I applied simply to see if they would offer me to enroll in their Path program that they came out with on 06/29, instead, I received an offer. 

I still don't understand how I finally received an offer with my credit profile being the worse it ever has been. 

 

My current score is 668

My only two cards reported as maxed, $900/$1,000, and $8,400/$10,000. Plus, I have 5 inquires now from being previously denied for only having two.

 

Approved yesterday, charged $2,000 between then, and have a scheduled payment to deduct out today for the full amount. I wonder how long will it take to match my $10,000 with NFCU. I hear their cli's are usage-based, I'm estimating i will put about $5,000 per month onto this card.

 

Does anyone know If I should let a large balance report for the statement and then pay it off to beat their algorithms? 

 

 

 

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CreditCuriosity
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Goldman Sachs/Apple Card and their Algorithm

Congrats on your approval.  They will never match your 10k NFCU card.. I was approved at 7500 which is one of my lowest limits and average card is 25k range with high of 60k+ credit line on merill visa and they won't budge.  Granted if you pay off your other maxed out cards and keep charging 2kish they will probably up you to around 5k around 3-6 months if you are lucky.  GS isnt about matching nor are they generous with CL you cant compare one of the most conservative banks GS to one of the loosest CU if not most lose CU's out there being NFCU.

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M_Smart007
Legendary Contributor

Re: Goldman Sachs/Apple Card and their Algorithm

Congratulations on your Approval..

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Goldman Sachs/Apple Card and their Algorithm

@CreditCuriosity Thanks for the congrats and reply! My other two cards were paid off, just mistakenly let them report a balance. As of right now, both are 0/1,000 and 0/10,000. I've targeted at least $5,000 of my monthly spending to be used on this card as I can use Apple Pay. Plans are to ask for a CLI six months for now. At that point at least $30k should be charged and paid. Very curious what the limit might be pushed to with the spend, and the major changes of my credit profile (Very little UTI and +6 months of age to my thin profile) 

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CreditCuriosity
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Goldman Sachs/Apple Card and their Algorithm

As mentioned I think they would raise it to around 5k.  They aren't about matching as mentioned as several very high earners on this forum with large CLs with other lenders are having troubles getting their limits raised although a few have done so, although not sure how one recently he started at 30k and got up to 40k.  50k is largest initial approval i have seen but more-so most approvals are below 10k range and some 20k and up approvals the ones that start at 20k up only think i have seen one CLI and awaiting OP's response what kinda spent he pushed through it to get a CLI.  They can care less about income as well it appears as many members have well into 6 figure incomes and get denied for lack of usage of the CL, etc. They really dont make alot of sense as best friend tried their pre-qual got pre-approved for 20k and he makes > 600k a year at the time and they only offered him 20k with a 840+ TU fico score and 1% util he declined the offer

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Anonymous
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Re: Goldman Sachs/Apple Card and their Algorithm

BOOM! Congrats on joining Team AppleCard!

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gdale6
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Goldman Sachs/Apple Card and their Algorithm

There is  thread you should read on this:  https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-in-the-News/Goldman-explains-Apple-Card-algorithmic-rejectio...

 

Congrats on your new Apple card Smiley Happy

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AllZero
Mega Contributor

Re: Goldman Sachs/Apple Card and their Algorithm

Congratulations on your approval!
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slickwidit
Established Contributor

Re: Goldman Sachs/Apple Card and their Algorithm

Congratulations 🎊 🎉 🎈 🍾 

"Achieving your goal is great and everything.. But The journey is where all the amazing stuff happens" *Slickwidit*
Score goals - 800+ (85 points away)
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CreditAggie
Community Leader
Super Contributor

Re: Goldman Sachs/Apple Card and their Algorithm

Congratulations on your Apple Card approval!

Current Cards (in order of approval):

         
Current FICO 8 | 9 (April 2025):  
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