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CreditCuriosity
Moderator Emeritus

Re: AMEX credit limit decrease

One last warning... POLITICAL talk regardless of party will not be tolerated on this forum.  I want to leave this thread open, but it will be closed if politics and especially names or affiliations are spoke of once more.  Please understand the TOS of the forums we have them for a reason.

Message 21 of 117
Anonymous
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Re: AMEX credit limit decrease


@Physh1 wrote:

I've seen both sides of Amex over the years...I've been a cardholder since 2001. I was very happy with them for years....I hit financial hardship around 2009 & maxed out some cards (not Amex) to float myself...ended up burning a few creditors badly...MBNA & Cap1 specifically. Amex was very very proactive & unfriendly about reducing my limits (even though I was keeping up with them fully...actually PIF on all accounts every time). I didn't like this BUT understood it when I took a clear neutral look at things. My scores in a quick time dropped from the mid 700's to the 500's...

 

Now that I'm in better shape again Amex has been quite generous with me. You don't mention any conversations with Amex in detail...I bet you've talked to them. Have they shared a reason? Something has them spooked...sometimes it's computers making the decisions while sometimes it's a manual review. They see something that they don't feel comfortable with. There is always a reason. Amex, like every other creditor, wants to make money. In this case, for some reason, the need to make money is being overrode by some self protection need. You're pretty upset, which I understand, but I'd suggest you clear your head & look at things less passionately & more neutrally.


I read what you are saying but I haven't burnt anyone. I have 20 credit cards and I keep them all paid on time.

 

I understand that you think AMEX has all these rights to cheat people but honestly I have my reasons too, and they are effectively and purposefully damaging my credit. I understand they do not like me, I do not like them either. I am from the old school, if you fail to perform - I WILL!

 

They have given no reasons, and I get regular rectal exams from AMEX several times a year. I don't need AMEX but since I got in bed with them, they aren't getting out without paying their pound of flesh they have taken from me. Here in Michigan your credit scores impact your mandatory auto insurance, pretty much ALL insurance mandatory or not. 

 

I am cool to the fact it's all just a game, can't tell you how many attorneys and insurance companies for lenders have cried at night for the legal suits I bring. I don't care if I get paid, so long as the case file weighs about 10 lbs and spans at least two years I know I got my money's worth! lol I treat people how I want to be treated to avoid this as I am a small business owner and probably have more scruples for my customers than all of these lenders combined.

 

AMEX is not the only one out there trying to make money! I am just the customer, what do I know!? 

Message 22 of 117
Anonymous
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Re: AMEX credit limit decrease


@CreditCuriosity wrote:

One last warning... POLITICAL talk regardless of party will not be tolerated on this forum.  I want to leave this thread open, but it will be closed if politics and especially names or affiliations are spoke of once more.  Please understand the TOS of the forums we have them for a reason.


I agree with this, but for this particular thread, and without promoting any candidate in responses, if its a possible reason for a CLD (a donation for any candidate), I think its a valid topic, especially if it can be proven (which is tough to do), and is no different than getting a CLD or a card cancellation for yelling at a CSR or using the card at Albertson's. However, I wouldn't allow things like, "Vote for <candidate>!" or anything slightly off topic about a candidate.

Message 23 of 117
Anonymous
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Re: AMEX credit limit decrease


@Anonymous wrote:

@CreditCuriosity wrote:

One last warning... POLITICAL talk regardless of party will not be tolerated on this forum.  I want to leave this thread open, but it will be closed if politics and especially names or affiliations are spoke of once more.  Please understand the TOS of the forums we have them for a reason.


I agree with this, but for this particular thread, and without promoting any candidate in responses, if its a possible reason for a CLD (a donation for any candidate), I think its a valid topic, especially if it can be proven (which is tough to do), and is no different than getting a CLD or a card cancellation for yelling at a CSR or using the card at Albertson's. However, I wouldn't allow things like, "Vote for <candidate>!" or anything slightly off topic about a candidate.


I agree, I am not suggesting anyone vote for any particular person and I thank you for seeing my point CardNut! I was just stating the facts! 

 

Very odd that the credit line cut after a political donation - but it can not be discounted, especially since another New York City bank cut my limit the day after (Citi). coincidence? I sure hope so because otherwise that is flat out scary! 

 

But all is not lost, American Express has done much-much more in the ways of underhanded and crooked acts so my issues still have lots more to go on than politics, scary as the facts may be.

Message 24 of 117
Anonymous
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Re: AMEX credit limit decrease


@Anonymous wrote:

 

I understand that you think AMEX has all these rights to cheat people but honestly I have my reasons too, and they are effectively and purposefully damaging my credit. I understand they do not like me, I do not like them either. I am from the old school, if you fail to perform - I WILL!

 

They have given no reasons, and I get regular rectal exams from AMEX several times a year. I don't need AMEX but since I got in bed with them, they aren't getting out without paying their pound of flesh they have taken from me. Here in Michigan your credit scores impact your mandatory auto insurance, pretty much ALL insurance mandatory or not. 

 

I am cool to the fact it's all just a game, can't tell you how many attorneys and insurance companies for lenders have cried at night for the legal suits I bring. I don't care if I get paid, so long as the case file weighs about 10 lbs and spans at least two years I know I got my money's worth! lol I treat people how I want to be treated to avoid this as I am a small business owner and probably have more scruples for my customers than all of these lenders combined.

 

AMEX is not the only one out there trying to make money! I am just the customer, what do I know!? 


I have had some issues with Amex too, but... you do realize that you are sounding somewhat like a conspiracy theorist?   The basic question is:  Why do you think you are of sufficient importance to Amex that they would take time to be  purposefully damaging my credit.   These decisions are automated for normal accounts.  (If instead of a small biz owner you were the CEO of a Fortune 10, then maybe!).   And if you enjoy filing nuisance suites, well, fine.   It doesn't make your case more right, or indeed get you sympathy.

Message 25 of 117
Remedios
Credit Mentor

Re: AMEX credit limit decrease


@Anonymous wrote:

Remedios - What I did? You have to be kidding! All I ever did was pay these people on time!

 

Don't get me wrong, it's a free country but if a credit card company does not want to make interest on a balance, or if it cannot maintain such balance - then perhaps they shouldn't be in the finance business? As a small business owner I though AMEX was better suited to handle such things and when I needed them they couldn't pony up the dough! How is that my fault? Discover didn't flinch! Didn't even bother me with any calls either! Probably because it was a local hometown transaction. 

 

You claim AMEX is good and stable/solid lender but that is not always true! I felt my bad experience had merit in the original thread it was posted in because the entire thread made me want to vomit when I read it... my response being moved just re-affirms my belief that it was and still is a "doctored" thread. Why? Because it has foot traffic off Google. 


 

I understand you're upset. That much is obvious. However, you're lashing out at all the wrong people.

 

 Moderator moved your thread so you can  get answers to your questions without the extra noise from  thread you posted in.

Considering the inflammatory parts in your post, it could have gotten deleted. It did not. You were given your own room to play, and for that "thread is doctored" is really not the right response.  He was helping you. 

 

You complained about people and their accents. That right there eliminates me from helping you. You see, I have one. 

Most CSR are powerless when it comes to the issues you have. Some may actually be inclined to help, providing they are treated with courtesy and respect. How much power they have is not based on a country they answer phone from. 

I certainly hope you talked to them in a nicer way than you talked about them. 

 

Discover has great customer service. Reps are not empowered to make certain decisions. If your issues were with Disco, you'd get same response from the rep. 

 

There is an issue with your credit at the moment.  People come here upset and try to get answers. Most of our members will do their best to help strangers take some control over their situation. 

 

 

If you have no questions but merely wanted to discuss how evil Amex is, some will agree with you. Some will push back because their experience does not mirror yours.  Same can be said about any lender. 

 

No one here is after you, we dont get paid to type (sadly). If you want help, listen to what others have to say, answer questions and go from there. I'm sure there is plenty to learn. 

Acting as if everyone is against you will only ensure threads gets unnecessarily contentious. 

 

Members here are trying to help you. Stop fighting them like they stole your wallet. 

 

With that said, full disclosure ahead....I have no Amex cards and no horse in your race. Other than accent, which happens to be adorable. 

 

Good luck 

Message 26 of 117
Girlzilla88
Valued Contributor

Re: AMEX credit limit decrease


@CreditCuriosity wrote:

Also what we do is VOLUNTEER work.  We are not affiliated with the site or paid in any way, we do it to pay back the forum for helping us with what we have learned.. At least that is why I choose to moderate as it truly is a thankless job.


Thank you to all the Mods out there you truly are helpfull and I am NOT an Amex fan thus far.....js.    Sounds like you are very hurt by them and possibly rightfully so but everyone here is just trying to help so don't shoot the messengers/helpers Smiley Happy







Message 27 of 117
Anonymous
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Re: AMEX credit limit decrease


@Anonymous wrote:

That's a truly baffling set of occurrences on your accounts... I went and read the whole story and the only thing that I can think of is that you are carrying a balance on one or more cards, their limits got slashed, AMEX responded with slashing limits as well. 

I noticed that you said that you always kept your cards under 30% -- did you have multiple cards carrying balances and not paid in full? Some lenders are more sensitive to revolving balances on any accounts, not just theirs, and AMEX is one of those sensitive lenders. 

Normally if you call them at the number provided they will tell you what they expect from you to have your limit restored -- it usually involves some significant pay down of the debt that is bothering them over a month or two but AMEX is very good about restoring your full limit if you meet what they ask you to do. 

One more thing, it doesn't hurt your credit to close cards. If you cannot get Citi and AMEX to restore your limits, closing those cards won't affect you until those accounts age off up to 10 years later. Since they have cut your limits so low, utilization should be a non-issue. I certainly wouldn't keep cards that slashed my limits so much. 


I do carry some balances, but only because when I didn't they claimed my cards weren't getting utilized! 

 

A lot of people think these things just happen over night, nothing happens over night in the credit card world unless you happen to miss a payment, which I have NEVER done.

 

I have 17 credit cards that don't have this problem, many of them don't offer as high of credit limits but in my eyes it's worth it to keep them around because you never know what games the big card issuers are going to play and its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. 

 

All that being said, I cant even access the home equity I have (well over $100,000) because of these unfair cuts! It would be one thing if I was late, even just once! But I have NEVER been late on ANYTHING! If these card issuers cant maintain their original credit offerings who's fault is that if I am paying on time? Does that make it right for them to manipulate my credit score to ensure they and everyone else gets higher interest rates? Is it fair that they do this to prevent me from dealing with other lenders? No! I just took them at their word and did what I was supposed to do which is use the product and pay on time! It is really quite simple and I don't know why so many people seem more than willing to dismiss these facts. 

Message 28 of 117
Anonymous
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Re: AMEX credit limit decrease


@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

 

I understand that you think AMEX has all these rights to cheat people but honestly I have my reasons too, and they are effectively and purposefully damaging my credit. I understand they do not like me, I do not like them either. I am from the old school, if you fail to perform - I WILL!

 

They have given no reasons, and I get regular rectal exams from AMEX several times a year. I don't need AMEX but since I got in bed with them, they aren't getting out without paying their pound of flesh they have taken from me. Here in Michigan your credit scores impact your mandatory auto insurance, pretty much ALL insurance mandatory or not. 

 

I am cool to the fact it's all just a game, can't tell you how many attorneys and insurance companies for lenders have cried at night for the legal suits I bring. I don't care if I get paid, so long as the case file weighs about 10 lbs and spans at least two years I know I got my money's worth! lol I treat people how I want to be treated to avoid this as I am a small business owner and probably have more scruples for my customers than all of these lenders combined.

 

AMEX is not the only one out there trying to make money! I am just the customer, what do I know!? 


I have had some issues with Amex too, but... you do realize that you are sounding somewhat like a conspiracy theorist?   The basic question is:  Why do you think you are of sufficient importance to Amex that they would take time to be  purposefully damaging my credit.   These decisions are automated for normal accounts.  (If instead of a small biz owner you were the CEO of a Fortune 10, then maybe!).   And if you enjoy filing nuisance suites, well, fine.   It doesn't make your case more right, or indeed get you sympathy.


Nuisance suites? You have to be kidding, right!? 

 

My case and damages awarded are for a judge and jury to decide, not you or the forum.

 

I am just sharing some facts, and I have backing proof but the forum does not want to venture down that rabbit hole - which is fine, but just know I am not just making empty statements! Ask some of the others who were lucky enough to see the proof before it was censored. 

 

I am not angry, and I don't blame anyone in here! I am just someone sharing my experiences, yours may differ but now you can't say that you weren't warned.

 

It happend to me, it can happen to you. 

Message 29 of 117
M_Smart007
Legendary Contributor

Re: AMEX credit limit decrease


@CreditCuriosity wrote:

Also what we do is VOLUNTEER work.  We are not affiliated with the site or paid in any way, we do it to pay back the forum for helping us with what we have learned.. At least that is why I choose to moderate as it truly is a thankless job.


@CreditCuriosity, as someone who has Volunteered for 12 years as a First Responder, I partly understand what you do,

and the little thanks you get for it. I personally want to say that, you do a great job! and these forums would get out of hand

quickly.

 

Even at times .I needed a slap on the hand .. because I let emotions get the best of Me.

Thank you for all that you do!  ..I am dead serious.

 

 

 

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