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TryN2Rebuild
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Alliant or USAA

I would only be a limited member for USAA so I am wondering which is better. I am looking to get a CC with one of them. Any help would be appreciated.
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manyquestions
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Re: Alliant or USAA

What do you value?  Aliant would probably be easier to get and you would be eligible for rewards.  With USAA it is harder to get a card, if you were approved you would maybe get a higher credit limit than Aliant (or not) and the APR might be lower but you will not be eligible for rewards. 
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Anonymous
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Re: Alliant or USAA

Alliant because USAA wants you to do ALL banking and insurance with them. They want multiple accounts etc. Alliant will give you a higher CL. I have both and Alliant I have 7K and USAA I have 1K. Credit score was the same at time of membership.
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TryN2Rebuild
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Re: Alliant or USAA

jenrette,

 

What were your scores when you got approved for the Alliant card? I don't want to apply for no reason.

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Itsmeagain
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Re: Alliant or USAA

Alliant does not use FICO scores.  They use a model from Equifax called "Pinnacle".  This scoring system looks harder at your last two year history to determine your score.  Some people who have much activity within the last two year period will score less than those with little activity.

 

In my case, my EQ FICO was 730 but my Pinnacle score (according to the Alliant rep), was between 675 and 700 because there has been a lot of new credit within the last two years, even though during the last six months it has been minimal.


Starting Score: TU 737 EQ 721
Current Score: TU 741 EQ 741
Goal Score: TU 765 EQ 760


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haulingthescoreup
Moderator Emerita

Re: Alliant or USAA

Just to clarify for anyone getting confused, the Pinnacle score is a FICO score. It's just that it's not the Beacon 5.0 pulled here and used by most lenders.

The Pinnacle score is Equifax's FICO NextGen score. NextGen's didn't exactly set the credit world on fire Smiley Wink, but they have been picked up by some lenders.
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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Itsmeagain
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Re: Alliant or USAA

Sorry Hauling, didn't mean to mislead.  Thanks for the clarification. 

 

I wonder what would be necessary for the Pinnacle score to equal or exceed the Beacon score?  Would one need to have little to no apps or new accounts within the past two years?


Starting Score: TU 737 EQ 721
Current Score: TU 741 EQ 741
Goal Score: TU 765 EQ 760


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haulingthescoreup
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Hey, no problem! I'm still confused on it myself.

The one thing that I can find out for sure is that the NextGen score has a range from 150 - 950, and it has 18 scorecards (score "buckets"), compared to 10 for the classic scores and 12 for FICO 08. (Also not used by that many lenders yet, btw.) And that's pretty much it. Smiley Tongue Googling brings up a stunning amount of misinformation, much of it published by credit repair agencies, it would appear. It was supposed to have better predictive power, looking more closely at the most recent two years, but lenders didn't seem to be tempted. It takes forever for lenders to be convinced that a new scoring formula is an improvement over whatever they're familiar with.

Here are the different names, by agency:
Equifax: Pinnacle
TransUnion: PRECISION
Experian: Advanced Risk Scores

I found these dregs on a 2001 press release, which at least appears to have been issued by Fair/ Isaac, as FICO was called until recently.

But note the 2001 part.
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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Anonymous
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Re: Alliant or USAA


@ewingerter wrote:
I would only be a limited member for USAA so I am wondering which is better. I am looking to get a CC with one of them. Any help would be appreciated.

 

I'd have to agree that Alliant may be the better fit.  If you are a "full" member of USAA, USAA is the next best thing to sliced bread.
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