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Amex FRing me! What's up with that?

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improvingmycredit
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Amex FRing me! What's up with that?

I have had my card in hand a whole of 1 week. Used it for two purchases totaling $35.00. My scores are in the 700's, I make good money and I was instant approved. No baddies on my reports. What gives? When I asked the rep why, he said "I was vetted by the credit department and now I have to be vetted by the financial side. They do this to a lot of new accounts". Very strange way to do business considering I've never had to do what they are asking of me with any of my other credit cards. I'm complying but after some thought, very disturbed by this. Why approve me in the first place and send me a card? Anyone know why or who they chose for these FRs?

Starting Score: 642
Current Score: EQ 773, EX 780, TU 777 (All FICO)
Goal Score: 800+

Cards: NFCU Flagship 50K, DC 30K, BCP 28.6K, Arrival+ 25K, Citi DP 22.8K, CSR 20.5K, TotalRewards 25K, QuickSilver 20K

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Guava
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Re: Amex FRing me! What's up with that?

No one really knows for sure why FR happens, but something must have set them off; you gotta take to good with the bad I guess.

 

Vetted! lol, I learned a new word today. Hope it'll turn out favorable for you soon!


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scottwagnon
Valued Contributor

Re: Amex FRing me! What's up with that?

i must have been very lucky, then again i didn't start out with a charge card. i had a charge card with them for two weeks in june 2005, then closed my account after realizing that i was paying an annual fee for a card i didn't realize i would have to pay only in full (i didn't realize it wasn't a credit card). in october 12 of 2010 is when i started out with blue cash.

 

i think it is primarily the charge cards they like to FR with new account holders.

 

the day amex FR's me, i will gracefully wave my hat to them and close the door. i will re apply after six months perhaps, but no credit card is worth this. i suggest you do the same, and reapply 6 months down the road, or as soon as you are eligble to reapply. i think amex will get the hint eventually and leave you alone. this practice of constantly FRing so many has gone overboard and people with prime credit have the right to fight back.

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improvingmycredit
Valued Contributor

Re: Amex FRing me! What's up with that?

Ha, I think I might take your advice.  I have no reason to be concerned because everything I put on the application was factual.  I will see what they say then I might say in the end, "no thank you!"  Unfortunately I have already sent in the 4506T form today. What was I thinking????  Smiley Mad  I'm more disturbed by this little unusual experience then anything.


Starting Score: 642
Current Score: EQ 773, EX 780, TU 777 (All FICO)
Goal Score: 800+

Cards: NFCU Flagship 50K, DC 30K, BCP 28.6K, Arrival+ 25K, Citi DP 22.8K, CSR 20.5K, TotalRewards 25K, QuickSilver 20K

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Anonymous
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Re: Amex FRing me! What's up with that?


@Guava wrote:

No one really knows for sure why FR happens, but something must have set them off; you gotta take to good with the bad I guess.

 

Vetted! lol, I learned a new word today. Hope it'll turn out favorable for you soon!



I keep hearing more bad than good about Amex, but I suppose to each their own. I read several positive experiences about Amex here this week, and then this. So I guess they always decide they have to harass someone with their FRs, I guess some department would be out of a job otherwise.

I think the only time I've heard he word vetted is when I was talking to MPs at a military installation, they said you need to have proper ID to show them so you can be vetted before they can allow you access on base. Other than that, I don't think I've ever heard anyone use that word.

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bichonmom
Senior Contributor

Re: Amex FRing me! What's up with that?

What does Amex require with a FR? It does seem like more people are writing here about negative experiences.

 

Vetting has become part of the vernacular these days. I hear it a lot now. But when I first heard it a few years ago, I had to Google it. Smiley Surprised

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sandsanta
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Re: Amex FRing me! What's up with that?

I personally don't have an issue with an FR, however if its required it needs to be done on account creation, not a week after with a potentially embarrassing decline. 


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improvingmycredit
Valued Contributor

Re: Amex FRing me! What's up with that?

+1 

I agree 100%.  I think it wouldn't be so bothersome if this all were taking place during the application process.  Not after I have the card in hand.


Starting Score: 642
Current Score: EQ 773, EX 780, TU 777 (All FICO)
Goal Score: 800+

Cards: NFCU Flagship 50K, DC 30K, BCP 28.6K, Arrival+ 25K, Citi DP 22.8K, CSR 20.5K, TotalRewards 25K, QuickSilver 20K

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Anonymous
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Re: Amex FRing me! What's up with that?


@bichonmom wrote:

What does Amex require with a FR? It does seem like more people are writing here about negative experiences.

 

Vetting has become part of the vernacular these days. I hear it a lot now. But when I first heard it a few years ago, I had to Google it. Smiley Surprised



From what I understand, their financial review means you have to send them copies of your tax returns, bank statements, etc. If you refuse, your accounts get closed. It makes sense, but I think it's pretty harsh, especially if they completely randomly pick you for it.

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improvingmycredit
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Re: Amex FRing me! What's up with that?

"From what I understand, their financial review means you have to send them copies of your tax returns, bank statements, etc. If you refuse, your accounts get closed. It makes sense, but I think it's pretty harsh, especially if they completely randomly pick you for it."

 

Andy... what they requested from me is a signed 4506T  IRS form to request from the IRS a copy of my last years tax return.  He said I had 5 days to comply or they would cancel the account.  (Not at all in a mean way, very business like.  Just the type of thing you might expect from a mortgage lender)  He even said the whole process was rather Daconian.


Starting Score: 642
Current Score: EQ 773, EX 780, TU 777 (All FICO)
Goal Score: 800+

Cards: NFCU Flagship 50K, DC 30K, BCP 28.6K, Arrival+ 25K, Citi DP 22.8K, CSR 20.5K, TotalRewards 25K, QuickSilver 20K

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