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EaglesFan2006
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App Sprees?

Just curious...I've read a lot on here about people that are doing or have done or plan to do App Sprees.  I'm just wondering what the strategy is for that, and why that might be better than say, applying for a card once a year or once every 6 months or something like that.  Is this strategy similar to rate shopping for an auto loan, even though these will all count as individual inquiries?  Couldn't you run the risk of your current accounts seeing you apply for so much credit and then perform adverse action against you?

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Bsong
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From my understanding, you pick which cards you want and apply all in the same day. For me personally my "app spree" will consist on applying for the chase sapphire, amex blue cash everyday and maybe a discover card. I would also try and get credit line increases on my current cards. But that's 6 mo to a year from now.
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navigatethis12
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Most of the time it's for bonuses or a low/no fee balance transfer at 0%. There is a risk of getting accounts closed or having limits decreased, but I have yet to experience that. I reckon they would only do that if utilisation increased and mine is always 0 or 1% these days.

 

The benefit of applying all at once is so they can all age together, instead of making a dent in the score all of the time. Some lender want six months of history on new accounts, so applying for them all at once keeps the other lenders from seeing the new accounts.

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EaglesFan2006
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@navigatethis12 wrote:

Most of the time it's for bonuses or a low/no fee balance transfer at 0%. There is a risk of getting accounts closed or having limits decreased, but I have yet to experience that. I reckon they would only do that if utilisation increased and mine is always 0 or 1% these days.

 

The benefit of applying all at once is so they can all age together, instead of making a dent in the score all of the time. Some lender want six months of history on new accounts, so applying for them all at once keeps the other lenders from seeing the new accounts.


From what you're saying, it sounds like AA is more likely to happen if you add new cards and run up balances as opposed to simply having new inquiries...is that accurate?  If that's the case, then you're increased util is running the risk of AA regardless of an App spree.

 

Anyway, this is something I want to explore about 6 months down the road.  When doing this, do you submit your apps within a certain time period to experience benefits?  I suppose doing them almost simultaneously would help somewhat....

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navigatethis12
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@EaglesFan2006 wrote:


From what you're saying, it sounds like AA is more likely to happen if you add new cards and run up balances as opposed to simply having new inquiries...is that accurate?  If that's the case, then you're increased util is running the risk of AA regardless of an App spree.

 

Anyway, this is something I want to explore about 6 months down the road.  When doing this, do you submit your apps within a certain time period to experience benefits?  I suppose doing them almost simultaneously would help somewhat....


I'm not very experienced with this since it was first thought of when I was still in middle school. I believe it was back in the 2003-2005 period people figured out you could use balance transfer cheques to deposit money to yourself or transfer to another card and ask for a refund of the balance. I believe savings accounts were like 5 or 6% then and the balance transfers either had no fees or were capped at $75. People would then use the balance transfers for all of the cards and gain interest with the credit card money. In those days, utilisation didn't seem to be of a concern since people with maxed cards would still get more.

 

These days, that kind of stuff is dangerous since lenders have become sort of nervous about high balances. As said, now it's usually for sign up bonuses, so you don't run the cards up, except for whatever the spend requirement is. I always pay before the statement closes, so even when I have multiple cards to spend on, most still report no balance. Inquiries can still cause adverse action, but not usually.

 

I opened about ten cards last year in February and nothing bad happened. I only had two cards before that, and I managed to get increases on both afterwards. I also opened five cards in November/December of last year, and again, I have only had positive things happen. I have no negative information, so that may play a part in lenders ignoring the new accounts.

 

I applied for all of them within two weeks. If you are going for two cards from the same bank, you can try using two browsers and submitting them at the same time to try to get one inquiry. This did not work for me with Citi, but it could work for others. It's just best to apply for all of the ones you want before they start showing up. New accounts lower scores and lenders do not like seeing them.

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