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Auto-PIF Function

So I got sick and tired of sitting down and typing in my credit card statement balance into Navy Federal BP each and every month. Since my Navy Federal card is set to automatically PIF from my checking account on the 29th of each month, I tried to do the same for my other cards.
 
Discover was relatively easy. I just called in, told them what I wanted to do, they transferred me to someone who knew how to do it, and they told me the web address and offered to walk me through the process (I didn't need their help, it was pretty self-explanatory). I told it to PIF my balance each month on the 29th.
 
AmEx was a bit tougher. I called in, explained what I wanted to do, and they sent me a form that I'm going to have to mail back. No word yet on whether or not I can pick the date on which I can pay. It's nice to have them all pay on the same date so I can just go online a few days afterwards, check my statements, make sure they're accurate and let them take the money right out of my account. Smiley Happy
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Creditaddict
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Re: Auto-PIF Function

oh what it would be like to auto pay full balance on ALL my credit cards! hehe
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Anonymous
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Re: Auto-PIF Function

Several posters have had issues with auto PIF. I would check each month, just to make sure.  Last thing you want is a late.
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Anonymous
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Re: Auto-PIF Function



cobra19 wrote:
Several posters have had issues with auto PIF. I would check each month, just to make sure.  Last thing you want is a late.



Thanks for the heads-up. I was actually thinking about that. I'd think if I watch it for the first couple of months, if everything's going alright, I can just let it go unchecked. If it screws up after that, I can just blame it on them.
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CodeMonkey
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Re: Auto-PIF Function

You are a far, far, far, far, FAR more trusting person than I.

Even in the absence of any nefarious intent, one typo on the part of any one person along the line and your finances could be hosed up for months.

Having spent quite a bit of time dealing with the fallout of such things in the past, I don't even allow anyone direct access to my checking account, period - I have a secondary checking account from which I send EFT payments, and transfer exactly that amount from my primary account right before I make the payment. The secondary account has an overdraft limit of $0.00, so if they try to withdraw more than I gave them permission for, the transaction bounces instantly - much easier to sort out with the bank than a negative balance in your primary checking account, and who knows how many other bounces, overdrafts, service fees, etc. Also, you don't have to worry about tracking down the "accidentally" appropriated funds.

Good luck - hopefully you'll have a better experience with that than I did. Smiley Happy
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Anonymous
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Re: Auto-PIF Function

I use it, but verify payment after. Makes life so much easier, but you need to have some cash in the bank at all times....!!!
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CodeMonkey
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To elaborate - last year, I made a rent payment online, like I always do, in the amount of $1371.17.

I received the email receipt, as always, showing the amount - it was entered correctly.

The next day, someone in their finance department made a "typo" - entering 1371177.

So, they withdrew $13,711.77 from my checking account.

At the time I was a heavy debit card user - so instantly I was in the red. I had, I kid you not, 27 separate overdraft fees in the span of about 3 days before my bank thought "hmm, gee, something doesn't look right here - maybe we should freeze the checking account and give him a call??"

It took me about three months and probably as many years off my lifespan due to stress and embarrassment to get the whole thing sorted out - even though the whole thing was completely and totally their mistake!

This was also one of my big motivators to move away from debit cards or EFT transactions and to start using credit cards exclusively for all my expenses - even if something goes terribly wrong, it isn't "my money" that's being hosed up right away - so I have a 30-some-odd-day window to get things fixed before my liquid reserves have to suffer.

I admire trusting people - and I'm not trying to bag on you - just pointing out to anyone considering doing this sort of thing that even if something is "not their fault," they will still generally end up dealing with the resulting fallout.

Message Edited by CodeMonkey on 09-03-2008 12:46 PM
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Anonymous
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Re: Auto-PIF Function

I will hear you Code Money! But, I have to agree with pizza on this one. Even if, god forbid, someone does screw up and it bounces on my checking account, I'll have the opportunity to correct it and from then on it'll be one less thing to worry about.
 
I have my credit cards set-up to automatically pay my bills each month, so automatically having my credit cards paid will take so much off my mind!
 
Of course that isn't to say I won't be keeping an eye on all of the automated payments during the first few months of this and whenever I add another bill or credit card. But hey, I'd rather worry about it now, and then never again after that!
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haulingthescoreup
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@Anonymous wrote:


@Anonymous wrote:
Several posters have had issues with auto PIF. I would check each month, just to make sure. Last thing you want is a late.



Thanks for the heads-up. I was actually thinking about that. I'd think if I watch it for the first couple of months, if everything's going alright, I can just let it go unchecked. If it screws up after that, I can just blame it on them.



OMG, I really, really hope you're joking here. Really, really, really.

We've had too many members who thought that they had everything on autopilot, only to have something blow up on the bank's end. And very few banks will say, oops, my bad.

He's joking people, really.
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
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Watchmann
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Re: Auto-PIF Function

You are brave to set up a PIF order on an account that will always be changing in value.  I have accounts set up to take my money out each month on a continuous basis (mortgage, car, life insurance), but those are set amounts and don't change month to month, so less chance of a goof up.  But I would not want charge cards or revolvers to have access to my bank account. 
 
I don't think sitting down once a month and manually typing in an amount in your Bill Payer is asking too much.  But maybe you are a busy individual and just don't have the time.  Smiley Happy
 
 


Message Edited by Watchmann on 09-03-2008 07:51 PM
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