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Best travel card

Hello all. I'm looking for a card that will give great travel perks. So I have a big purchase( 15k) coming up that I have the cash for but would like to utilize an intro bonus. My score is about 700 and I believe ive wasted my once in a lifetime Amex bonus. (If I understand the rule correctly) I have Amex ED 6k cap 1 QS 15k citi DP 5.5k wells platinum 3.5k and synchrony VS 1k. Thanks all oh and I like the British airways offer but would most likely be using this for a trip to Hawaii.
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Skymogul
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Re: Best travel card


@Anonymous wrote:
Hello all. I'm looking for a card that will give great travel perks. So I have a big purchase( 15k) coming up that I have the cash for but would like to utilize an intro bonus. My score is about 700 and I believe ive wasted my once in a lifetime Amex bonus. (If I understand the rule correctly) I have Amex ED 6k cap 1 QS 15k citi DP 5.5k wells platinum 3.5k and synchrony VS 1k. Thanks all oh and I like the British airways offer but would most likely be using this for a trip to Hawaii.

I don't know if you'll qualify with a ~700 score or get a high enough SL, but Cap One Venture might be a good choice for this situation. 40,000 mile ($400 against travel expenses, $200 cash) intro bonus on $3K spend in 90 days. The advantage of Venture here is that you can redeem against travel 90 days retroactively. So, you take your $15K trip, which earns you 40,000 miles intro and 30,000 miles spend rewards. You'd have $700 in rewards to redeem against your trip.

 

Chase Sapphire is a good hacking card and would be an option if you are wanting to use the miles toward a FUTURE trip. It gives you 2 miles/$1 on travel spend, which becomes 2.5 miles/$1 if you book your travel through Chase. You can also transfer miles 1:1 from Sapphire into a bunch of different frequent flyer and hotel rewards programs. You can only use those rewards against future travel though... and you only earn 1 mile/$1 on NON-travel spend.

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wasCB14
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I think I know the section of Amex fine print you're talking about. That's not enforced.

In reality, you can get a bonus on any Amex except ED...assuming it's always been an ED, that is. You can't have a bonus on a card you've been approved for in the past.

But you could get a nice charge card bonus or a different Amex credit card. I've gotten several Amex bonuses, the most recent one two months ago.

Personal spend: Amex Gold, Amex Schwab Plat., BofA PR+CCR(x2), Costco
Business use: Amex Bus. Plat., BBP, Lowes Amex AU, CFU AU
Perks: Delta Plat., United Explorer, IHG49, Hyatt, "Old SPG"
Mostly SD: Freedom Flex, Freedom, Arrival
Upgrade/Downgrade games: ED, BCE
SUB chasing: AA Platinum Select
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Anonymous
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Re: Best travel card


@Anonymous wrote:
Hello all. I'm looking for a card that will give great travel perks. So I have a big purchase( 15k) coming up that I have the cash for but would like to utilize an intro bonus. My score is about 700 and I believe ive wasted my once in a lifetime Amex bonus. (If I understand the rule correctly) I have Amex ED 6k cap 1 QS 15k citi DP 5.5k wells platinum 3.5k and synchrony VS 1k. Thanks all oh and I like the British airways offer but would most likely be using this for a trip to Hawaii.

One bonus per life per card, not per bank.

 

Best offer for you might be Platinum Card's spend 15K get 150K points (you can try to get it by using VPN method, etc). There's also a spend 5k get 100K offer which does not suit your situation as well as the first one.

 

The card itself also has good overall travel perks which can be useful in as well as on the way to and back from HI, though you should decide for yourself whether to keep it beyond year one due to the high AF(highest among cards that is open to general public?).

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Anonymous
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I did the Hawaiian Airlines credit card through Barclays.  Earned enough points from the sign on bonus to get a free roundtrip from the west coast to Hawaii.  You also get an annual companion ticket so for the $95 annual fee I got an $800 benefit (haven't used a companion ticket yet)

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Berk
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Re: Best travel card


@Anonymous wrote:
Hello all. I'm looking for a card that will give great travel perks. So I have a big purchase( 15k) coming up that I have the cash for but would like to utilize an intro bonus. My score is about 700 and I believe ive wasted my once in a lifetime Amex bonus. (If I understand the rule correctly) I have Amex ED 6k cap 1 QS 15k citi DP 5.5k wells platinum 3.5k and synchrony VS 1k. Thanks all oh and I like the British airways offer but would most likely be using this for a trip to Hawaii.

If your talking about a once-in-a-lifetime trip and not continuous travel I don't know that I'd recommend a travel perks card at all. I would look at a card that would allow you to use the points against your travel costs. Cap 1 Venture comes to mind.

 

If, on the other hand, you do travel a lot and want a card with travel perks, you need to look at each card's benefits and see which one would best meet your needs as far as partner airlines and hotel chains, lounge access, car and hotel upgrades, fee reimbursement, etc, and then get the card that best fits your travel profile. 

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Anonymous
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Re: Best travel card

Two words: Amex Platinum
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longtimelurker
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Re: Best travel card


@Skymogul wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
Hello all. I'm looking for a card that will give great travel perks. So I have a big purchase( 15k) coming up that I have the cash for but would like to utilize an intro bonus. My score is about 700 and I believe ive wasted my once in a lifetime Amex bonus. (If I understand the rule correctly) I have Amex ED 6k cap 1 QS 15k citi DP 5.5k wells platinum 3.5k and synchrony VS 1k. Thanks all oh and I like the British airways offer but would most likely be using this for a trip to Hawaii.

I don't know if you'll qualify with a ~700 score or get a high enough SL, but Cap One Venture might be a good choice for this situation. 40,000 mile ($400 against travel expenses, $200 cash) intro bonus on $3K spend in 90 days. The advantage of Venture here is that you can redeem against travel 90 days retroactively. So, you take your $15K trip, which earns you 40,000 miles intro and 30,000 miles spend rewards. You'd have $700 in rewards to redeem against your trip.

 

Chase Sapphire is a good hacking card and would be an option if you are wanting to use the miles toward a FUTURE trip. It gives you 2 miles/$1 on travel spend, which becomes 2.5 miles/$1 if you book your travel through Chase. You can also transfer miles 1:1 from Sapphire into a bunch of different frequent flyer and hotel rewards programs. You can only use those rewards against future travel though... and you only earn 1 mile/$1 on NON-travel spend.


Not sure I understand this distinction.    If I use the CSP, I get the bonus, and, if I wish to, I can use that as statement credit to partially pay of the trip, in exactly the same way as the Venture, with the multiple added advantage that I could use the credit for anything (not just travel), or, as you say on future trips, could transfer or use the Chase portal.   Plus avoiding a triple pull (but maybe a double).

 

If this is a once off travel, you might also consider the Discover IT Miles, to get 3% back (1.5% now, 1.5% after a year) but not sure if a 700 score is good enough for that 

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Skymogul
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@longtimelurker wrote:

Not sure I understand this distinction.    If I use the CSP, I get the bonus, and, if I wish to, I can use that as statement credit to partially pay of the trip, in exactly the same way as the Venture, with the multiple added advantage that I could use the credit for anything (not just travel), or, as you say on future trips, could transfer or use the Chase portal.   Plus avoiding a triple pull (but maybe a double).

 

If this is a once off travel, you might also consider the Discover IT Miles, to get 3% back (1.5% now, 1.5% after a year) but not sure if a 700 score is good enough for that 


Yes, but you'll be redeeming less. You'll have only earned 2x miles on transactions actually coded as travel, like airfare, hotel, etc. For other trip-related expenses like dining, excursions and so forth, you're only going to earn 1x miles. On Venture, *everything* earns 2x as long as it's *redeemed* toward transactions coded as travel. This makes Venture the better card for redeeming retroactively. Sapphire makes this up with the 1.25x bonus when booking through Chase and the miles transfers to partner rewards programs. That makes it the better card for using rewards toward your *next* trip. It's a subtle but important distinction.

 

It depends on your spending patterns. If the bulk of your spend is on non-travel coded transactions (and I think that's the case for most people), Venture is the better card. If you have frequent/large travel-coded spend, Sapphire will work out better.

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nachoslibres
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@Skymogul wrote:

@longtimelurker wrote:

Not sure I understand this distinction.    If I use the CSP, I get the bonus, and, if I wish to, I can use that as statement credit to partially pay of the trip, in exactly the same way as the Venture, with the multiple added advantage that I could use the credit for anything (not just travel), or, as you say on future trips, could transfer or use the Chase portal.   Plus avoiding a triple pull (but maybe a double).

 

If this is a once off travel, you might also consider the Discover IT Miles, to get 3% back (1.5% now, 1.5% after a year) but not sure if a 700 score is good enough for that 


Yes, but you'll be redeeming less. You'll have only earned 2x miles on transactions actually coded as travel, like airfare, hotel, etc. For other trip-related expenses like dining, excursions and so forth, you're only going to earn 1x miles. On Venture, *everything* earns 2x as long as it's *redeemed* toward transactions coded as travel. This makes Venture the better card for redeeming retroactively. Sapphire makes this up with the 1.25x bonus when booking through Chase and the miles transfers to partner rewards programs. That makes it the better card for using rewards toward your *next* trip. It's a subtle but important distinction.

 

It depends on your spending patterns. If the bulk of your spend is on non-travel coded transactions (and I think that's the case for most people), Venture is the better card. If you have frequent/large travel-coded spend, Sapphire will work out better.


If you are going to recommend the Venture why wouldn't you just recommend the Citi Double Cash?  It earns 2% on everything, no annual fee, and you don't have to redeem your rewards against travel charges to get the full 2%, you just cut yourself a check (or deposit in your bank account if you have a checking/savings account with Citi).

 

OP, if you have a business of some sort and can somehow find another $5k to spend within your first 3 months of account opening I would recommend getting the Amex Business Platinum.  It currently has an offer of 75k MR points - 50k MR points for the first $10k in spend and another 25k points for the second $10k spend on the card in the first 3 months.  Those points are currently valued at $0.02/per point so that's roughly $1,500 worth of travel if you redeem them right (and honestly worth even more if you utilize the airfare redemption perk on the business card correctly).  It does have an annual fee of $450, but it comes with a lot of perks like mid tier status with several hotels (Hilton, Hyatt, SPG/Marriott/Ritz), Centurion (I wish I had this) and PP airport lounge access, Global Entry/TSA Precheck, etc.  I'd carry this card myself if the Chase Sapphire Reserve didn't have so many overlapping benefits.

 

I personally use the Amex SPG card for most of my spending these days - as each SPG point is valued around $0.027.  It gives me free Sheraton Club lounge access (business version), I can get Gold status with $30k spend a year, and I plan on getting a lot more value out of my points by utilizing the Nights and Flights - which gives you 5 nights and 50,000 airline miles for 60k or 70k SPG points, depending upon what level SPG property you want to stay at.

 

I also utilize the Chase Trifecta (or in reality Superfecta) of the Chase Sapphire Reserve / Chase Ink Cash / Chase Freedom / Chase Freedom Unlimited.  This allows me to earn 2%, 3%, 5% cash back on most of the purchases put on these cards (except the FU which earns 1.5%) and I can then convert those points to miles at mileage partners which typically doubles and sometime quadruples my original rate of return, depending upon which travel partner I transfer to and how well I maximize the points.  This means I'm earning at least 3% base (for the FU) all the way up to 20% back (5% back and then getting $0.04/UR by maximizing those points) yet for some people this seems like work but IMO once you get the hang of it it becomes pretty easy.  If you wanted to start doing this I would recommend getting the Chase Sapphire Reserve (or Preferred the you can't justify the $450 annual fee - which is really $150 once you put $300 worth of travel on it a year due to the $300 statement credit).

 

So, as you can see, you have a lot of options, and there are lots more not mentioned, so it really depends on what you want to do.  If I was starting out and could only choose one travel card it would be a toss up between the Chase Sapphire Reserve and the Amex SPG, but I would probably have to go for the CSR since it offers 3x points on all travel and dining and comes with great airport lounge access perk and outstanding trip insurance coverage.  If you are looking for strictly travel perks then I would go with the Amex Platinum.

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