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Can someone help me with a Discover Secured Card question?

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MikeyMagic
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Can someone help me with a Discover Secured Card question?

Hello

 

So I have had the card for 3 months, put $500 on it and use maybe $700-$800 per month. I make usually 2 payments before the statement date and paid it in full 2 months. I left a small balance the other month and paid that off before the due date.

 

I just saw on reddit that Discover won't graduate the card in 7 months if I keep the statement each month showing a $0 balance. Is this true?

 

I am using the card properly, no late payments but according to the "expert" Discover reddit poster, he said if there is a $0 balance reported every month it doesn't count as positive. Basically he said I'm not getting positive payment history from it.

 

I am trying to put a balance on all my cards on different months. AZEO. Discover for a month, Cap 1 for a month, Chase for a month, etc...

 

Now I'm worried I won't graduate the card in 7 months because the credit reports are showing a $0 balance after my statement date for 2 of the months so far. I thought Discover obviously would see how I'm using the card, my 2 payments per month, active usage of the card and of course no late payments!!

 

Is the reddit person wrong? Do I still have a good chance to graduate the card the way I'm doing it?  Thanks.

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uncredited
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Re: Can someone help me with a Discover Secured Card question?

There's no hard fast rules, and even less so with Discover and what does or does not lead to graduation. What the reddit person probably meant/assumed it's that it's your ONLY card if it's a secure card and then you would have the all zero penalty dragging the file down.  If you have other cards and at least one reports a balance that's not an issue.

 

Now does discover prefer you show one, and does it affect graduation?  Who knows. Some theorize that affects them giving CLIs and some theorize it doesn't, and disco is famously impossible to find a pattern on around here.  Some banks have patterns to things and people figure out what they like. Disco is mysterious, nobody's got them figured out, it seems random or quickly changing.

 

I can say that when I had mine secured it was my ONLY card and I thus left it showing a small balance and they graduated it right on time, and then after I got another card I never had discover show balance again and got clis every 6 mo (until this month.)

 

It probably can't hurt to let it report if you want to maximize chances of fast graduation, but I don't think anyone can say not doing so definitely hurts your chances either unless you know you need one of your others to report over those 6 months.  It's only 6, or now 4 remaining months.  No harm letting Disco be your Except One those few months if you want to maximize chances. But it's a lucky sock either way.

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MikeyMagic
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Re: Can someone help me with a Discover Secured Card question?


@uncredited wrote:

There's no hard fast rules, and even less so with Discover and what does or does not lead to graduation. What the reddit person probably meant/assumed it's that it's your ONLY card if it's a secure card and then you would have the all zero penalty dragging the file down.  If you have other cards and at least one reports a balance that's not an issue.

 

Now does discover prefer you show one, and does it affect graduation?  Who knows. Some theorize that affects them giving CLIs and some theorize it doesn't, and disco is famously impossible to find a pattern on around here.  Some banks have patterns to things and people figure out what they like. Disco is mysterious, nobody's got them figured out, it seems random or quickly changing.

 

I can say that when I had mine secured it was my ONLY card and I thus left it showing a small balance and they graduated it right on time, and then after I got another card I never had discover show balance again and got clis every 6 mo (until this month.)

 

It probably can't hurt to let it report if you want to maximize chances of fast graduation, but I don't think anyone can say not doing so definitely hurts your chances either unless you know you need one of your others to report over those 6 months.  It's only 6, or now 4 remaining months.  No harm letting Disco be your Except One those few months if you want to maximize chances. But it's a lucky sock either way.


Thanks for your thoughts on this. I am doing AZEO and wanted to rotate which card will show a balance every month, but maybe I'll skip AZEO and show 2 balances a month with Discover always being one of them. Until the card graduates. Just to be on the safe side in case that reddit person is correct.

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Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: Can someone help me with a Discover Secured Card question?

The Reddit person is incorrect. We have plenty of use case scenarios here leading to graduation. People have paid in full and gotten an early graduation. The thing to remember is that despite what people post, graduating early is not the norm. The secured program is 12 months. Some will graduate early while others, like myself, graduate later. In my situation, I didn't pay my full minimum payment.  Simply forgot to pay something like  $12 while waiting for my rewards to post. Payment was only a few days late, but the damage was done. It caused me to graduate much later and I didn't get the full $2200 limit. 

    
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MikeyMagic
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Re: Can someone help me with a Discover Secured Card question?


@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

The Reddit person is incorrect. We have plenty of use case scenarios here leading to graduation. People have paid in full and gotten an early graduation. The thing to remember is that despite what people post, graduating early is not the norm. The secured program is 12 months. Some will graduate early while others, like myself, graduate later. In my situation, I didn't pay my full minimum payment.  Simply forgot to pay something like  $12 while waiting for my rewards to post. Payment was only a few days late, but the damage was done. It caused me to graduate much later and I didn't get the full $2200 limit. 


Thanks for your experience and your belief that not showing a balance on a statement will delay graduation. That didn't make sense to me because obv Discover can see how you are using the card, if there are late payments, returned payments etc... 

 

What limit did they finally give you if you don't mind me asking and how long did it take for you to graduate?

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Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: Can someone help me with a Discover Secured Card question?


@MikeyMagic wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

The Reddit person is incorrect. We have plenty of use case scenarios here leading to graduation. People have paid in full and gotten an early graduation. The thing to remember is that despite what people post, graduating early is not the norm. The secured program is 12 months. Some will graduate early while others, like myself, graduate later. In my situation, I didn't pay my full minimum payment.  Simply forgot to pay something like  $12 while waiting for my rewards to post. Payment was only a few days late, but the damage was done. It caused me to graduate much later and I didn't get the full $2200 limit. 


Thanks for your experience and your belief that not showing a balance on a statement will delay graduation. That didn't make sense to me because obv Discover can see how you are using the card, if there are late payments, returned payments etc... 

 

What limit did they finally give you if you don't mind me asking and how long did it take for you to graduate?


I don't remember how long. Maybe 14 months or something like that. I only got 750 on a 500 deposit. Huge mistake.

    
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Zoostation1
Valued Contributor

Re: Can someone help me with a Discover Secured Card question?

In my caseI let balances report the 4 of the 7 months prior to going from$400 secured to $1800 unsecured.  I do think reported balances help with Discover CLIs however after the card is unsecured.   I only got approved for another CLI when I requested after both reporting a more significant balance (was $500 on the $1800 limit) and the next AR (account review) discover did following that reported balance.  If you request a CLi via the Discover site it's a soft pull, so no harm if you are denied, however it does appear the internal data they use is from your last AR.  If you pull your reports from annualcreditreport you'll see the that AR in your soft pulls (you probably won't see this when you look at your reports from other sources, these are usually more detailed).  For me that AR was about 2 months after letting the balance report.

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uncredited
Frequent Contributor

Re: Can someone help me with a Discover Secured Card question?

@Zoostation1I don't think there's really any reliable rules with discover. Ive never reported a balance with them after I got my second card, and got, I think 4 CLIs from them, one was automatic without even asking.  Now this week I asked again, now that I have 3 cards with waaaay higher limits, and they said no because my limits are too low (while they're the lowest limit,)

 

And then today I get a targeted mailer with a sub bonus offer for the first time in a while....

 

They have reasons... But I don't know their formulas are for mortals to understand, I think it's some complex and frequently changing computation.

 

 

My own theory of how I changed their algorithm on my is that I accidentally double paid my statement one month, and they ended up sending me a paper check for a whole five dollars of the difference (why?) and that probably changed something in my computations for things. It's really impossible to know what triggers them. 

 

Still love them though... But I'll never understand them

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mgood
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Re: Can someone help me with a Discover Secured Card question?

Take "expert" answers with a grain of salt. Multiple experts will frequently give you different answers.

 

I've never had a secured card, so I do not claim to have expertise in this area. I have read (from Discover, if I'm not mistaken) that secured accounts are evaluated at the 7th month and every month thereafter to determine whether or not to graduate them to unsecured. I think multiple people here on this forum graduated a little earlier than that, like 6 months or whatever.



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MikeyMagic
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Re: Can someone help me with a Discover Secured Card question?


@mgood wrote:

Take "expert" answers with a grain of salt. Multiple experts will frequently give you different answers.

 

I've never had a secured card, so I do not claim to have expertise in this area. I have read (from Discover, if I'm not mistaken) that secured accounts are evaluated at the 7th month and every month thereafter to determine whether or not to graduate them to unsecured. I think multiple people here on this forum graduated a little earlier than that, like 6 months or whatever.


I have never read anywhere that Discover has graduated the Secured Card in less than 7 months.

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