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I should be getting my first Fico score in about 10 days and would like to get your recommendations. I currently have secured Cap1 and Discover cards. I've been told that in order to maximize my score i will need atleast 3 revolvers. Would like to avoid getting another Cap1 as I am guessing that would be bucketed as well. Mostly interested in cash back, but the more I learn about travel cards the more interested I am in them as well. So what are your recommendations for my 1st unsecured card with a thin file that has some room to grow? Even better if it pulls Experian as I don't have any HP on Experian, others have 3 HP.
I would consider the Apple card if I was in your shoes. @MrFiah
My 22 yr. son who is in his senior year of college did the Chase Freedom Unlimited. He was given a $2,500 CL. His credit score is 754 built from being an authorized user on a couple of my cards. He then did the Amex Blue Cash about six months later and was approved for a $6,000 CL. I listed his income at $20,000 annually because that would about equal his part time job and scholarship. His first solo card was the Capital One Quicksilver no annual fee card where he was approved for $1,500.
Will probably get him one more his senior year so he will graduate college with his leg in 4 different ecosystems then he can decide which one he likes best.
He puts a small amount of spend on each card each month (gas, food, etc.) and pays in full before statement to keep his utilization between 0% and 2%.
When he graduates he will have his oldest solo card age about 3 years. He can then do whatever he wants financially right out of college. My son in law bought his first home in October 2020 after only having a discover card for 6 months. That was his full credit portfolio. They bought a small modest home in the country for about $180,000. It had a new roof, windows, and mechanicals. It's now worth about $250,000. My daughter was 22 at the time and he was 23.
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So you're about to hit the 6 month mark on the cards? If you really were starting from scratch, you could most likely have gotten an unsecured card from either Cap1 and Discover, though probably not both at once. But they should graduate eventually, so you haven't closed any doors.
Whatever your scores, you're a young and thin file, so you should look for cards from lenders who are known to be friendly to those new to credit. It's unlikely you'll get a decent travel card, for instance, until you pass the 1 year mark. You've already got cards from the two most obvious lenders known to be friendly to those new to credit. Another, if you qualify for membership, is Navy Fed. The More Rewards is their best for everyday spend (3% on groceries/gas/dining/transit), though they pull TU9 not EX. FNBO is also friendly to newer files. They do pull EX9, and the Evergreen is a nice everything else card (2% flat cash back). Check their prequal tool, it seems fairly reliable and will even give a starting credit limit.
Though I'd definitely wait until those two cards are at least 6 months old, and it might be better to wait a full year. You're likely to get better credit lines, and it will open up a lot more cards. Make sure your utilization is low (I know from experience that staying closer to 1% is better than just staying under 30% or even 10%, with a new file). And to have a good shot, you probably need reasonable income, good DTI, and no negatives like missed payments.
@HHH71 wrote:My 22 yr. son who is in his senior year of college did the Chase Freedom Unlimited. He was given a $2,500 CL. His credit score is 754 built from being an authorized user on a couple of my cards. He then did the Amex Blue Cash about six months later and was approved for a $6,000 CL. I listed his income at $20,000 annually because that would about equal his part time job and scholarship. His first solo card was the Capital One Quicksilver no annual fee card where he was approved for $1,500.
Nice encouraging story! But I do have one caution to add: I got my first card, 13 months ago. At the 6th month mark, I applied for the Chase Freedom Flex. At the time, my income and credit scores (thanks to an AU card) were higher than your son's. Chase shot me down, and even with a Chase Private Banker intervening for me, they wouldn't reconsider. From everything I've heard since, it sounds like they want to see at least 1 year of personal credit. They might make exceptions for people who have a strong preexisting relationship, or perhaps for students. But especially with 2 new tradelines, I don't think @MrFiah will have a real shot at one of the Freedoms.
@Anonymalous wrote:So you're about to hit the 6 month mark on the cards? If you really were starting from scratch, you could most likely have gotten an unsecured card from either Cap1 and Discover, though probably not both at once. But they should graduate eventually, so you haven't closed any doors.
Whatever your scores, you're a young and thin file, so you should look for cards from lenders who are known to be friendly to those new to credit. It's unlikely you'll get a decent travel card, for instance, until you pass the 1 year mark. You've already got cards from the two most obvious lenders known to be friendly to those new to credit. Another, if you qualify for membership, is Navy Fed. The More Rewards is their best for everyday spend (3% on groceries/gas/dining/transit), though they pull TU9 not EX. FNBO is also friendly to newer files. They do pull EX9, and the Evergreen is a nice everything else card (2% flat cash back). Check their prequal tool, it seems fairly reliable and will even give a starting credit limit.
Though I'd definitely wait until those two cards are at least 6 months old, and it might be better to wait a full year. You're likely to get better credit lines, and it will open up a lot more cards. Make sure your utilization is low (I know from experience that staying closer to 1% is better than just stayinunder 30% or even 10%, with a new file). And to have a good shot, you probably need reasonable income, good DTI, and no negatives like missed payments
@Anonymalous Yep...starting from scratch and both cards will turn 6 months in July. I tried to get unsecured cards from both Cap1 and Discover back in January but could only get secured cards. I'm keeping utilization under 5% so good there. I have no debt so DTI is zero. No lates, missed payments. About 65k income. Thanks for the recommendations on nfcu and fnbo.
I know if I wait another 6 months and I have a year of history I'll be able to apply for better cards, but at the same time I'm told you need 3 revolvers to maximize scoring. Is one way better than the other?
@MrFiah wrote:Thanks for the recommendations on nfcu and fnbo .... Is one way better than the other?
Welcome to My Fico Forums, @MrFiah.
Rather than trying for the three cards to optimize your FICO score, growing your file is the priority now. We often say here that building your credit is like running a marathon, not a sprint. We often see new members try to build their profile too quickly, but there are downsides to that. Adding new inquiries and new accounts carries their own scoring penalties and makes lenders more nervous on a young, thin profile. And adding new cards now would more likely lead to lower limits than if you give it a little more time. We have many members who find themselves in "toy limit hell" by proceeding too quickly and have difficulty climbing out of it. I would suggest waiting until you have a year to eighteen months with those two cards and then slowly start to add from there, about one new account no sooner than every six months.
Navy FCU is a perennial favorite on My Fico. They are *by far* the largest credit union in the US, larger than some mid-size banks. They have great customer service. They are friendly to thin profiles and those with past derogatories or lower scores. And they are quite generous to many with their credit limits, especially as your membership experience with them grows. The downside is that you must be either a military veteran yourself or have family members that would qualify. However, that includes a wide range of relationships such as grandparents, parents, siblings, or children. >>This link<< will give you more information about NFCU membership.
I'm pretty sure that your Discover card, once unsecured, will grow quite rapidly with dedicated usage. I would focus on those two cards and build from there, but there's no hurry to add more at this point.
I would also suggest that when you do add another card, look to the lenders where your deposit accounts are located. Lenders often like customers who have other products and may be a little more open to a thinner file with existing customers. A local bank or credit union is a great place to start if you don't have those types of accounts.

























@MrFiah wrote:I know if I wait another 6 months and I have a year of history I'll be able to apply for better cards, but at the same time I'm told you need 3 revolvers to maximize scoring. Is one way better than the other?
I think that depends entirely on you. Even if you wait until the 1 year mark to get a third card, that just means you weren't able to practice AZEO for 6 months. Unless you were planning on apply for new credit in that period, it probably doesn't matter. And even if you did, the hit from the new tradeline will probably hurt more than AZEO will help (I lost 47 points from a new card, though I'm a fairly extreme case because I had a 23 year old AU card, so I lost a lot of age).
It's a really a trade off between getting a bunch of new cards very quickly, which will help your average age a little bit. Or getting them slightly more spread out, but having better credit lines and fewer denials. I'm not sure it makes a ton of difference in the long run, because ultimately credit is a marathon not a sprint. If you use credit wisely, you'll end up in a very similar place.
I'd want to see what my scores are, before I decided. If they're on the low end, then one way to get a nice bump is to wait a full year, because no new tradelines in 1 year is one of the aging thresholds, plus that's when your hard pulls will become unscoreable. On the other hand, if your scores are solid, then you might be in a better position.
I'm curious what your scores will be. I became scoreable at 5 months, because that's when the AU card reported. So I'm not sure what my scores would have been, with just 6 months of personal history and no help.
I might sit tight for awhile, put more spend on your Discover card, and as mentioned pay in full... even before the statement cuts. That card may graduate in 7 months or so. i don't think you mentioned what you deposited for the secure card, but I would also have that "secured" with what i an amount of $2,500 or so, even if it means making an additional deposit (if you can)... so it shows a higher line, and when it graduates your limit may be higher as well.... and sets the stage for higher potential lines.
I would also consider a "self lender" loan from a local credit union..... it acts like a Holiday Club, where you make a deposit monthly..... but it gets reported as a loan.... whener each month you "deposit" is paying off the self lender. At the end of the term you get your money returned (less fees) which are usually minor, so it is actually forced savings... and worth it for the additional line, and the "fixed loan" reporting. I would also do this for the largest amount I could afford and they allow.
Remember, slow & steady wins the race..... go slow, strategically, and let your file build..... with time.
There is some really great advice here! The hardest exercise for me in learning to manage my credit is being patient. I am by nature the type of person who likes to jump into projects with lots of energy and get things done quickly, but the credit world seems to frown on that mentality, especially at the beginning.
You are already on a great start, but I would not make another move until you get your credit scores, which sounds like that will be soon (please share when they post!). Then you will be in a better position to decide when it's best to add another tradeline. In the meantime, you have some time to investigate some of the suggestions made here. If you can get into Navy Federal Credit Union, I highly recommend that you do, they offer a lot of other really great tools to grow your credit, like low APR secured loans (SSL's). They also have a good secured card that will graduate in 6 months, in case you don't yet qualify for unsecured,
Your Discover should graduate after your 8th full statement. Those were the first 2 cards I started with last year and they both graduated on time. I didn't want to add much more revolving credit until that happened. Since then, I've been getting asked to the dance a lot more often, by much better looking partners than used to come a-knocking.