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red259
Super Contributor

Re: Chase DECREASED my limits


@Anonymous wrote:

I'm sure more than carrying a balance is at play here.  Perhaps carrying a balance while actively seeking other credit, the fact he was out of country so long using possibly running up the limit, or whatever.  Lenders get spooked for different reasons. In the age of modern technology and instant reporting, it is bound to get worse before better.


Well its balances not balance. Two cards near the limits and two other cards around 50%. Over a prolonged period of time I can see that spooking lenders on its own. 

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sjt
Senior Contributor

Re: Chase DECREASED my limits

Congrats that it all worked out.

 

I think one of triggers for the CLD is you started to activily use these cards after they been inactive.

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red259
Super Contributor

Re: Chase DECREASED my limits


@sjt wrote:

Congrats that it all worked out.

 

I think one of triggers for the CLD is you started to activily use these cards after they been inactive.


I don't think this is what happened. Maybe I misread but I thought OP said they were just carrying a balance and had not used the card in two months. 

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yfan
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Re: Chase DECREASED my limits


@Anonymous wrote:

I don't get why credit card companies do this. What's the point of giving you a credit limit if they are gonna come after you as soon as you use anything close to the limit THEY gave you. Smiley Mad


Agreed, but if you look at it from the issuer's point of view, it's like this: the reason they give you a higher limit is so that you will use their cards more often and thus generate more swipe fees for them. But when they see you begin to stretch that limit, they become afraid that you are doing this because you are nearing a financial point where you may have to choose which bills to pay. A lot of the times this happens through automatic software, which can be in and of themselves buggy.

 

Dumb, I know. But there you have it.

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red259
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Re: Chase DECREASED my limits


@yfan wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

I don't get why credit card companies do this. What's the point of giving you a credit limit if they are gonna come after you as soon as you use anything close to the limit THEY gave you. Smiley Mad


Agreed, but if you look at it from the issuer's point of view, it's like this: the reason they give you a higher limit is so that you will use their cards more often and thus generate more swipe fees for them. But when they see you begin to stretch that limit, they become afraid that you are doing this because you are nearing a financial point where you may have to choose which bills to pay. A lot of the times this happens through automatic software, which can be in and of themselves buggy.

 

Dumb, I know. But there you have it.


I think people are again getting away from what happened here. This isn't a case where someone maxed their card and then PIF by the due date. This is a case where someone used up most of their credit line and then carried the balance and had charges showing on other cards. The CCC does not care if you use up your whole credit line just as long as you PIF when the bill is due. Its when people carry large balances a CCC starts to think there are financial problems and they get nervous. Of course, its really obnoxious when CCCs do this on cards that have 0% APR. To me that is just absurd of a CCC, because a 0% apr is a perfectly legitimate reason to want to carry a balance.  

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yfan
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Re: Chase DECREASED my limits


@red259 wrote:

I think people are again getting away from what happened here. This isn't a case where someone maxed their card and then PIF by the due date. This is a case where someone used up most of their credit line and then carried the balance and had charges showing on other cards. The CCC does not care if you use up your whole credit line just as long as you PIF when the bill is due. Its when people carry large balances a CCC starts to think there are financial problems and they get nervous. Of course, its really obnoxious when CCCs do this on cards that have 0% APR. To me that is just absurd of a CCC, because a 0% apr is a perfectly legitimate reason to want to carry a balance.  


I don't think we are getting away from it at all. The flexibility to carry a balance is WHY it's called a credit card and not a charge card. Using that flexibility shouldn't cost one to lose credit. Banks also make their money from the interest, i.e. they make more money from people who carry a large balance than those who don't. Yes, I understand the point about the risk, but that risk is the reason banks charge interest. They shouldn't be able to have it both ways - charge high interest AND limit your ability to borrow when you have not been actually late.

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IWOL
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Re: Chase DECREASED my limits

I think the problem is that in many cases when people post about CLD we are only getting half of the story so it distorts the entire "case"

 

Im not saying that is the case here but I beleive that is often the case. So someone posts...."i got CLD from carrying a balance" but they eliminate the fact that they were maxed out at 90%, paying minimum for months, while charging up and reporting large balances on other cards.  It could also be a sudden change in spending and payment habits too that are strong indicators of financial trouble.

 

It dosent help others to read these stories if we dont have all or most of the facts which we rarely will get.

 

 


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sjt
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Re: Chase DECREASED my limits


@red259 wrote:

@sjt wrote:

Congrats that it all worked out.

 

I think one of triggers for the CLD is you started to activily use these cards after they been inactive.


I don't think this is what happened. Maybe I misread but I thought OP said they were just carrying a balance and had not used the card in two months. 


It could have been me that misread it. When OP said they had not used the card in two months I assumed they did not use it for two months prior to their usage.

 

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tcbofade
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Re: Chase DECREASED my limits

DW and I went through something similar with Chase earlier this year...after she got CLD'd, she called them and explained exactly how and why we were carrying more debt (and would be for all of 2014).  She explained that we've got equity we cant touch until 2015 and are absolutely floating debt on zero percent for x months offers until the first of the year.

 

Chase understood, agreed, and reinstated her CL immediately.

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sjt
Senior Contributor

Re: Chase DECREASED my limits


@IWOL wrote:

I think the problem is that in many cases when people post about CLD we are only getting half of the story so it distorts the entire "case"

 

Im not saying that is the case here but I beleive that is often the case. So someone posts...."i got CLD from carrying a balance" but they eliminate the fact that they were maxed out at 90%, paying minimum for months, while charging up and reporting large balances on other cards.  It could also be a sudden change in spending and payment habits too that are strong indicators of financial trouble.

 

It dosent help others to read these stories if we dont have all or most of the facts which we rarely will get.

 

 


I agree!

 

However many times when people post about their CLD or closure, I think they really believe they are stating all the facts. I also think that more and more banks are to quick to take action on customer's accounts so its a good idea to always recon.

 

 

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Citibank: AAdvantage Globe WLMC
Elan/US Bank: Fidelity Visa Signature
Credit Union: Cash Back Visa Signature
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