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youngandcreditwrthy
Senior Contributor

Chase Freedom CLI and APR reduction?

Hey everyone!
Haven't posted in a while. My second to last semester of school has been kickin' my butt, and I started dating someone new!

Anyhow,
So I've had this $5,000 Freedom card since July 2012. Every time I call... You know the story.. Chase only does hard pulls for clis. They also refuse to even consider an APR reduction. I had the card maxxed out six months or so, but have since paid down the balance to $1,600. The interest begins accruing this month I think. Was in 0% for 15 months previously. The current rate is 22.99%. I will probably pay that off in full by the end of January.
I opened a CSP in Oct and have been paying that in full for the past couple of months.
I also have banked with Chase for > four years.
Anyhow, I've found a legit Card Svcs Exec Office number and plan to call them.
I want an APR reduction and a CLI to $15,000. I figure it's better to ask during the holidays.
My EXP is 688; they exclusively pull EXP for me.
Aaoa: 3+ years
Util: 18% (this is about $18,000 of cc debt; anyone think the amount is a problem? $16,000 of this is at 0% or gets pif )

So is it even worth my time to contact the Exec Office?
I REFUSE to take a HP for a non-guaranteed cli. IF I was SURE I'd get at least a cli to $10,000, I might do it as I have an inq falling of of Exp this month. I'm not passing out HPs willy nilly like that though.
Marriott PR$25k | BCE $24.5K |BankAmericard Visa $25k| BOA Better Bal $17.5k |Wmt Discover $12.5k | BR Visa $17.5k | Amex Delta Gold $10k | Discover IT $10k | Paypal Extras MC $15k | Amazon Store $10k|Smile Gen $7.25k | Dillard's $10k | West Elm $4k| Express $3.05K | Mypoints.com Visa $4.5k | Freedom Visa $1k| Amex Surpass $1k
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Creditaddict
Legendary Contributor

Re: Chase Freedom CLI and APR reduction?

Hey stranger... I missed you!

 

I just read another post that they sent a secure message and were offered $7100 CLI without a HP... I of course went right over to chase and sent my own secure message asking same thing (repeat of the secure message I sent in Nov. asking same thing and getting canned response so not holding breath)

They seem to be a little like Discover lately, someone else got a CLI on Amazon Visa with sp but im consistently told they don't do that... so not sure!

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FinStar
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Chase Freedom CLI and APR reduction?

Well, it has been a while...

 

Hmmm... APR% reduction, unlikely.  Your account was likely coded (high risk) during the time it was opened based on their internal risk factors hence why it didn't get the best terms (on recon IIRC).  Probably best to get a new CC if your profile/scores have improved.

 

CLI without HP, although rare, it's happened - YEMV though even by Chase EO standards.  Best results for something like this to happen is if you are a well-leveraged client with a substantial deposit relationship (>$25K).  Even if you decide the HP route, they can't "promise" anything of $15K like your BOA CC, they can only go by internal limit and other factors.

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shane82388
Established Contributor

Re: Chase Freedom CLI and APR reduction?


@FinStar wrote:

Well, it has been a while...

 

Hmmm... APR% reduction, unlikely.  Your account was likely coded (high risk) during the time it was opened based on their internal risk factors hence why it didn't get the best terms (on recon IIRC).  Probably best to get a new CC if your profile/scores have improved.

 

CLI without HP, although rare, it's happened - YEMV though even by Chase EO standards.  Best results for something like this to happen is if you are a well-leveraged client with a substantial deposit relationship (>$25K).  Even if you decide the HP route, they can't "promise" anything of $15K like your BOA CC, they can only go by internal limit and other factors.


Ah man I'd love to lower the 22.99% APR on my Chase Freedom as well...I know everyone will just say "Just dont carry a balance and it doesnt matter!" but its not about that so much...its just annoying having such a high APR when you are now not deserving of such an APR and just want it lowered for my own satisfaction. :-)

 

 

 

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drkaje
Senior Contributor

Re: Chase Freedom CLI and APR reduction?

I spoke with someone really nice in that office last Feb and they wanted an HP to do anything. If it's gonna cost an HP, pretty your score up a little first.


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Message 5 of 29
FinStar
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Chase Freedom CLI and APR reduction?


@shane82388 wrote:

@FinStar wrote:

Well, it has been a while...

 

Hmmm... APR% reduction, unlikely.  Your account was likely coded (high risk) during the time it was opened based on their internal risk factors hence why it didn't get the best terms (on recon IIRC).  Probably best to get a new CC if your profile/scores have improved.

 

CLI without HP, although rare, it's happened - YEMV though even by Chase EO standards.  Best results for something like this to happen is if you are a well-leveraged client with a substantial deposit relationship (>$25K).  Even if you decide the HP route, they can't "promise" anything of $15K like your BOA CC, they can only go by internal limit and other factors.


Ah man I'd love to lower the 22.99% APR on my Chase Freedom as well...I know everyone will just say "Just dont carry a balance and it doesnt matter!" but its not about that so much...its just annoying having such a high APR when you are now not deserving of such an APR and just want it lowered for my own satisfaction. :-)

 

 

 


While that may seem like the ideal logic, it doesn't work that way.  Chase, unlike BOA or AMEX, doesn't have such flexibility for lowering APRs.  Accounts are coded based on internal risk factors at the time of approval which typically based on such algorithm determines your price for credit.  To look at it one way, you got approved, but the price for getting approved based on risk resulted in a higher APR instead of being denied (or denied altogether even on recon). 

 

Individuals with good/excellent credit always receive the lowest APRs.  That's just how the credit market works, mortgages, auto financing, CCs, etc.

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lg8302ch
Senior Contributor

Re: Chase Freedom CLI and APR reduction?


@FinStar wrote:

@shane82388 wrote:

@FinStar wrote:

Well, it has been a while...

 

Hmmm... APR% reduction, unlikely.  Your account was likely coded (high risk) during the time it was opened based on their internal risk factors hence why it didn't get the best terms (on recon IIRC).  Probably best to get a new CC if your profile/scores have improved.

 

CLI without HP, although rare, it's happened - YEMV though even by Chase EO standards.  Best results for something like this to happen is if you are a well-leveraged client with a substantial deposit relationship (>$25K).  Even if you decide the HP route, they can't "promise" anything of $15K like your BOA CC, they can only go by internal limit and other factors.


Ah man I'd love to lower the 22.99% APR on my Chase Freedom as well...I know everyone will just say "Just dont carry a balance and it doesnt matter!" but its not about that so much...its just annoying having such a high APR when you are now not deserving of such an APR and just want it lowered for my own satisfaction. :-)

 

 

 


While that may seem like the ideal logic, it doesn't work that way.  Chase, unlike BOA or AMEX, doesn't have such flexibility for lowering APRs.  Accounts are coded based on internal risk factors at the time of approval which typically based on such algorithm determines your price for credit.  To look at it one way, you got approved, but the price for getting approved based on risk resulted in a higher APR instead of being denied (or denied altogether even on recon). 

 

Individuals with good/excellent credit always receive the lowest APRs.  That's just how the credit market works, mortgages, auto financing, CCs, etc.


That is very relative. I had 783 EQ Fico at time of application for my Freedom and got also 22,99% APR. (BofA has given me 9,99% APR on both of their cards)  Reason for low application score was because I applied in a spree !!! Learnt my lesson and will never do this again. Discover very low limit also due to spree.

 

@OP...... I wish you good luck. For me it does not really matter as I will always pif that card anyhow but I will also try to work on the APR reduction just for pricip and in February will see what will happen if I ask for a conversion to  a Signature card. Since Chase has issued me a Signature card with 16K limit just recently so I do assume that my internal risk score must have drastically improved. I moved 1K to Freedom to not hear the excuse I need first a 5K limit. I am curious to see what will happen in February when I have my Freedom 13 months. For sure will try also to get an APR reduction.  Please let us know what happens if you contact the EO.

Wish you all the success Smiley Happy

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FinStar
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Chase Freedom CLI and APR reduction?


@lg8302ch wrote:

@FinStar wrote:

@shane82388 wrote:

@FinStar wrote:

Well, it has been a while...

 

Hmmm... APR% reduction, unlikely.  Your account was likely coded (high risk) during the time it was opened based on their internal risk factors hence why it didn't get the best terms (on recon IIRC).  Probably best to get a new CC if your profile/scores have improved.

 

CLI without HP, although rare, it's happened - YEMV though even by Chase EO standards.  Best results for something like this to happen is if you are a well-leveraged client with a substantial deposit relationship (>$25K).  Even if you decide the HP route, they can't "promise" anything of $15K like your BOA CC, they can only go by internal limit and other factors.


Ah man I'd love to lower the 22.99% APR on my Chase Freedom as well...I know everyone will just say "Just dont carry a balance and it doesnt matter!" but its not about that so much...its just annoying having such a high APR when you are now not deserving of such an APR and just want it lowered for my own satisfaction. :-)

 

 

 


While that may seem like the ideal logic, it doesn't work that way.  Chase, unlike BOA or AMEX, doesn't have such flexibility for lowering APRs.  Accounts are coded based on internal risk factors at the time of approval which typically based on such algorithm determines your price for credit.  To look at it one way, you got approved, but the price for getting approved based on risk resulted in a higher APR instead of being denied (or denied altogether even on recon). 

 

Individuals with good/excellent credit always receive the lowest APRs.  That's just how the credit market works, mortgages, auto financing, CCs, etc.


That is very relative. I had 783 EQ Fico at time of application for my Freedom and got also 22,99% APR. (BofA has given me 9,99% APR on both of their cards)  Reason for low application score was because I applied in a spree !!! Learnt my lesson and will never do this again. Discover very low limit also due to spree.

 

@OP...... I wish you good luck. For me it does not really matter as I will always pif that card anyhow but I will also try to work on the APR reduction just for pricip and in February will see what will happen if I ask for a conversion to  a Signature card. Since Chase has issued me a Signature card with 16K limit just recently so I do assume that my internal risk score must have drastically improved. I moved 1K to Freedom to not hear the excuse I need first a 5K limit. I am curious to see what will happen in February when I have my Freedom 13 months. For sure will try also to get an APR reduction.  Please let us know what happens if you contact the EO.

Wish you all the success Smiley Happy


It is relative and depends a lot on your profile, but having a FICO even in that range doesn't really translate into a low APR for some lenders.  Excellent credit profiles with such similar score (or higher) tend to lean in the realm of very low utilization, a well-established file and high AAoA (no app sprees), very low or 0 inquiries and no new accounts (in a relatively short period).

 

If you've noticed, you don't see (if any) posts high-praising Chase for lowering APRs...if you do, it's seldom and usually based on their periodic account review elegibility and by enlarge well-leveraged Chase relationships for the most part (i.e. to keep the business).  I understand the whole "principle" thing but knowing how they operate on the other side of the business, I could tell you that standard lending practices trumps principle.  Just my .02c Smiley Wink

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Creditaddict
Legendary Contributor

Re: Chase Freedom CLI and APR reduction?

Well they responded back to my secure message on my partners chase with the standard canned message they would be happy to process the request but it would result in a HP!

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FinStar
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Chase Freedom CLI and APR reduction?


@Creditaddict wrote:

Well they responded back to my secure message on my partners chase with the standard canned message they would be happy to process the request but it would result in a HP!


And....you went for it right?  NOT!  LOL.

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