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CreditCuriosity
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Credit Card lessons learned at end of year

Should of applied for more Amex cards before the backdating went away.. Who would of thought or known though Smiley Happy.  Could of used alot more 1990 love!

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diva0969
Regular Contributor

Re: Credit Card lessons learned at end of year

Thanks so much for this post! I've learned all of these lessons and probably a few more this year. 

Starting Scores: 12/14/14 FICO EQ: 579 EXP: 586 TU: 591
Current Scores: 12/29/15 FICO EQ: 643 EXP: 667 TU: 670
Goal: 750

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Anonymous
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Re: Credit Card lessons learned at end of year


@Anonymous wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I thought it might be helpful for us to post on the board some of the credit card lessons we have learned during the course of the year in the hope that these may help others, both those new to the board and seasoned members as well  (we are all always learning, are we not?)

 

I'll start the thread with a few:

 

1) Reduction can be a good thing. I've added credit and am now culling the herd to further refine my profile into the profile I want. I'm reducing down from 230k in credit and may even decide to get down to 170k over the next 9 months in order to not show "too much credit" to creditors. It's great to both add with a purpose and to downsize when needed.

 

 

2) Adding with a purpose. I planned in advance which cards I wanted to add when I went on my spree in July. Now that I have those cards, I'm culling some from the herd that will be less helpful to me going forward.

 

 

3) Needs change. A card that may have been helpful to me one year ago may not be as helpful to me now, and it's important to have the flexibility to realize that.

 

 

4) Utilization is key. When I started reading posts on myfico early this year, I didn't understand utilization as well as I do now. I never maxed out a card, but I often kept cards at 50% of credit limit. Reading and learning about utilization has helped me keep my overall utilization to between 4%-6%. I even get very watchful in a good way if an individual card exceeds 20%, just so I don't repeat prior utilization mistakes.

 

 

5) Be aware of what is going on in the credit world, and keep your knowledge current. I've learned a lot from fellow myfico members and that knowledge has helped me in my approach to lenders. For example, I've always had a great relationship with Barclay; however, seeing some of the posts on here about certain trends others have experienced has helped me to treat certain lenders even more conservatively.

 

 

6) Dramatic moves in the credit world are probably not a good idea. I have read situations on my fico where members have made dramatic moves in terms of utilization spikes, adding 15 cards all at once, opening and closing cards rapidly, or other moves that can spook lenders, and I am careful to keep that knowledge in mind when considering decisions of my own.

 

 

7) Learn from mistakes. Learning is a process and is ongoing for all of us. We've all added cards that we question ourselves about later and say, "what was I thinking?", even when we have a plan. Different things happen and learning is key.

 

 

8) Share knowledge with others in a friendly way. We all have something to share, but none of us has all of the answers and being humble is important. Treat others as fellow learners in the journey, not as if any of us are an expert and the other person is not quite where we are at in terms of knowledge. 

 

 

9) Credit is a journey, not a race. It's exciting to see others adding credit yet important to do so in a measured, planful way. I'm not new to credit, but when I see people who are new to credit trying to add too quickly, I hope they will learn valuable information from others on the board that there isn't any rush to build, especially if your profile does not support adding many cards at once.

 

 

10) Diversification is important. It's best not to put all or most of your eggs in one basket with a particular lender, or with too many of the same types of lenders. A diversified mix of lenders is really helpful given the ups and downs of the financial world today.

 

 

11) Respect the difficult journeys of others. We all have our individual challenges. I feel fortunate that I've never had negatives in my credit history, and when I see others who have built their way back from some really challenging negatives into a success story, I have a great deal of admiration and respect for that. Well done!

 


I like all but the ones highlighted more.  Number six is part of the highlight because it is time this community in 2016 not encourage people to app. just because...  We have worked hard to build it so lets maintain quality over quantity.

 

When we see someone whose profile we don't know alot about, lets probe a bit further for more information and if what they want isn't ideal, lets suggest that. Sometimes, tough love is a good thing.  It may not be evident at that moment, but they will thank you later.

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Anonymous
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Re: Credit Card lessons learned at end of year


 

 

Yes-Its-Me wrote: 

 

I like all, but I like the ones highlighted more.  Number six is part of the highlight because it is time this community in 2016 not encourage people to app. just because...  We have worked hard to build it so lets maintain quality over quantity.

 

When we see someone whose profile we don't know a lot about, let's probe a bit further for more information and if what they want isn't ideal, let's suggest that. Sometimes, tough love is a good thing.  It may not be evident at that moment, but they will thank you later.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

humuhumunukunukuapua'a wrote: 

 

+1. Very well said, Yes-Its-Me!

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: Credit Card lessons learned at end of year


@Anonymous wrote:

When we see someone whose profile we don't know alot about, lets probe a bit further for more information and if what they want isn't ideal, lets suggest that. Sometimes, tough love is a good thing.  It may not be evident at that moment, but they will thank you later.


And this more generally.   We see a lot of posts of the type "What is the best X card" (travel/cashback etc) and nearly always, with no more information, some people chime in with their favorite card, without knowing the critical details such as goals, total spend and where the spending goes.   However excited you are about your card, it might not be a fit at all for the person asking.    

 

So if there are details missing and they matter, ask before suggesting something!  

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Anonymous
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Re: Credit Card lessons learned at end of year

Another lesson learned is about the great people who form our community. We have some really kind, encouraging people who take significant time to be really positive and help others along, and I definitely am thankful for that. Smiley Happy

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Gunnar419
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Re: Credit Card lessons learned at end of year


@Anonymous wrote:

Another lesson learned is about the great people who form our community. We have some really kind, encouraging people who take significant time to be really positive and help others along, and I definitely am thankful for that. Smiley Happy


Wonderful point, humuhumu. You are certainly one of those people. You came into MyFico at a point where I had drawn back from posting but was still around, so you don't know much of me, but I've gotten a wonderful picture of you. Thank you for starting this thread.

 

Now, to the issue at hand: I didn't think I had any particular lessons this year. I got a TON of them in my first year or two here, but I'm pretty much done with my little credit portfolio now so I'm less involved. But one BIG thing I've learned here this year is that I can be around, can hear great cc deals that everyone is jumping on, and RESIST. It's still hard to resist, too. Even when I think "my income can't support that or I have no possible need for it," it's hard. But doable.

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Anonymous
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Re: Credit Card lessons learned at end of year

Thank you, Gunnar, you are very kind. I really appreciate your kind words and hope you have a wonderful New Year. Smiley Happy

 

And, RESIST is a wonderful learning to have, I agree! Smiley Happy

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Gunnar419
Valued Contributor

Re: Credit Card lessons learned at end of year

One more thing I've learned. Most of those deals that everybody's jumping on because they sound too good to be true are really too good to be true. Care to swim with the Oregon Ducks, anybody? Even a "for real" really that good card will usually go to cc heaven. Farewell, Sweet Sallie Mae! Glad I got one when I could.

 

ETA: I realize this point was already made and more articulately than I made it. But somehow it's a lesson human beings struggle to learn.

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Anonymous
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Re: Credit Card lessons learned at end of year


@Gunnar419 wrote:

One more thing I've learned. Most of those deals that everybody's jumping on because they sound too good to be true are really too good to be true. Care to swim with the Oregon Ducks, anybody? Even a "for real" really that good card will usually go to cc heaven

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Right, so for aggressive reward seekers, the key thing is identify the "for real" ones early, get them and reap what you can pre-nerfing (or if you are lucky they will merely not issue them to new applicants).

 

If you focus on rewards, you won't be misled by the bandwagon apping for cards "because they give great SL" etc.   But you may still get blindsided by things like BBVA putting holds on cards during the peak reward time, or Diners doing similar things with some Elite holders.    But, because cc issuers don't seem to learn that well, great deals will arise from time to time, and you have to snatch them (if that is your thing).  Examples are the original BCP and Cash + (and Citi Forward, OBC etc).

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