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Does AAoA "ballast" ever help with approvals?

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wasCB14
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Re: Does AAoA "ballast" ever help with approvals?


@Meanmchine wrote:

I prefer to keep accounts open, putting a charge on each of them once every 6 months ( non AF cards  ) unless there is a compelling reason to close them. Just my own opinion


I like eBills to keep track of due dates, and I've generally been willing to keep an account open if I'll be logging into the same site, anyway, for another card.

 

I used to keep Arrival for the backup PIN functionality, but I've read that BofA offers the same option.

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kdm31091
Super Contributor

Re: Does AAoA "ballast" ever help with approvals?

I can say that anytime I've had a recon conversation, nobody has ever brought up older, closed accounts or anything. All that was discussed was newly opened ones, or ones that were closed shortly after opening -- credit seeking or churning behavior. I think having at least one or two stable accounts with long histories is a good thing, but as you note, it is obvious if you literally never use the account, and if an analyst is reviewing things, a dormant account probably doesn't hold as much weight as one you're actively using for a long period of time.

 

I think it makes sense to worry about older accounts when they are significantly older (many years) than the rest but when we are talking about a few years I don't know that it's a big deal. As others say, you could just leave them open if no compelling reason to close, but sometimes just wanting to simplify from a dozen (or whatever) accounts is a compelling enough reason.

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Does AAoA "ballast" ever help with approvals?

Even if they did come up, simply state you closed them because they weren't providing any benefit, and you want this new fangled card for XYZ benefit, should be a positive.

 

I don't think lenders really care what you did in the past short of defaults (though some may hold late payments against folks I haven't seen it personally)... they do care more that you'll be using their new card in the future, so if you just keep tying your answers back to that, should be a non-issue.

 

For now there's useful credit scoring things to be gained in keeping those accounts open... but someday the GSE's will switch to newer version of FICO (or Vantage I suppose) and suddenly it really won't matter anymore given it's not hard to hold a near 800 score or higher with 5 years of history anyway assuming no negatives.




        
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