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First time card owner - Credit Utilization Q

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First time card owner - Credit Utilization Q

Hi guys,

 

I've decided to finally get credit cards for the first time (at 29) to build my credit and improve my score in the hopes of securing a home or car loan down the line.  Was shocked to find that despite no credit cards I had a 743 score from Experian (apparently faithfully paying student loans can boost your score 200+ points in just a couple of years, you just have to give away 30% of your income...)

 

Just activated an Amex BCE (2K limit) and a Chase Freedom (1200 limit).

 

So the plan is to use these cards frequently to get rewards etc., but my question is about utilizing the cards in the most effective way to increase my score.  I've read lots of posts, but I'm a noob and a little confused.

 

My understanding is that I can use the cards a lot, but what is most important is that the balance that gets reported to the credit bureaus be low relative to my credit limit.  For example, I'd want the balance on my Amex to be reported as around $100 - $200 (5% - 10%), and the CF at around $60 - $120 (5% - 10%).

 

An Amex rep told me that they report the statement balance as of the closing date, not sure about Chase yet.

 

So this is my plan to optimize use of the car (assume for the moment that Chase's reporting is the same as Amex, but feel free to tell me if you know for certain whether my assumption is correct or mistaken):

 

1. Use the card a lot for rewards.

2. On the day before closing date/statement date, pay the balance down to those ideal ranges above--we'll go low and say $100 for Amex and $60 for CF.

3. Pay the remaining balance in full a couple of days later.

 

I plan on NEVER carrying a balance EVER, but simply to use the CCs instead of the Visa Check Card I had been using for the last 10 years.  In addition to the above plan, I will also be paying periodically throughout the month since my spending is probably comes close to the limits.

 

I apologize in advance for any misuse of terminology. I really am new at this.  

 

Any advice is appreaciated. Thanks!

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SnackTrader
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Re: First time card owner - Credit Utilization Q

You've got it, with the exception of one thing - many on this forum (I am included based on my personal experiences with my score) think that only 1 card should report a balance, not each of them. So when I try to maximize my score, I let one card report a 1% limit, and get all the others to $0 for the statement closing date.

Also - I only maximize utilization in the months where I am applying for new credit. I feel no need to play this game if no one is going to be looking at my reports, but that's completely up to you!

Congrats on your successes so far, and Good Luck moving forward! Stick around and join the discussions!

In My Wallet: Amex BCP (12/12) $50,000, Chase Freedom (12/12) $16,500, Cap1 Quicksilver (6/12) $14,000, Barclaycard Rewards (5/13) $10,500, Citi Prestige (4/16) $30,000

Last App: June 27, 2015
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asphaltcowboy
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Re: First time card owner - Credit Utilization Q

Congrats, welcome to the forum,

+1 @SnackTrader

Also, I would give myself a few more days to pay before the statement cut,

just in case they do not post your payment before the cutoff, and maybe get a maxed

out card reported, (speaking from experience) best of luck to you!!


Starting Score TU 667 EQ 663 EX 655
Current Score TU 778 EQ 776 EX 781 Last Update 4/2016
Garden Club 04/10/2013
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Anonymous
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Re: First time card owner - Credit Utilization Q

Thanks for the input!

@snacktrader Why don't you always do this? What is your normal utilization like? My understanding is that it contributes heavily to your score...

@asphaltcowboy That's a good tip. Thanks!
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SnackTrader
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Re: First time card owner - Credit Utilization Q

Great questions.

I have applied for credit exactly 5 times in the last 12 and a half months. Once in June, 3 times in December, and once last month. That means over another 9 months of the year no one was looking at my credit score or my credit report. Since FICO scoring has no "memory" of utilization, my utilization in those 9 months meant nothing. So high or low, worrying about when and how to pay down the cards (except PIF by due date) wasn't going to do me any good. I just play the float for a few extra days instead.

Now, in those 3 months, you better bet I was checking my reports all the time and making sure my balances were where they needed to be. But I guess here's the kicker for me - I have over $40,000 in credit lines, and put approximately $2k-$4k on my cards every month and then pay in full. So, I never have to worry about utilization as it is. I also never come close to the CL on any individual card because I spread the spending around to optimize rewards, so that helps too. For some people with low limit cards, or people using one card for everything, utilization management is definitely more of an issue on an ongoing basis so that lenders don't get worried about maxed out credit lines, or high total utilization. But for someone like me, who rarely approaches 10% utilization, there is little need to manage utilization except when applying for new credit.

In My Wallet: Amex BCP (12/12) $50,000, Chase Freedom (12/12) $16,500, Cap1 Quicksilver (6/12) $14,000, Barclaycard Rewards (5/13) $10,500, Citi Prestige (4/16) $30,000

Last App: June 27, 2015
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Anonymous
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Re: First time card owner - Credit Utilization Q

@snacktrader Thanks for that clarification. I'm in a totally different category obviously. To follow up though, what do you mean when you say there is no memory? None at all? Very short term? Bc I thought ~30% of fico scores are utilization. Am I mistaken as to what that means, or are you saying that big jumps can be made quickly when you know your report is about to be pulled?
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SnackTrader
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Re: First time card owner - Credit Utilization Q

No memory means that your utilization is only taken into account at a point-in-time. What your utilization was 12 months ago, 6 months ago, or even last month has no impact on your score.

The only thing that matters for utilization is the most recent balance and the most recent limit reported to the credit bureaus. So if my utilization reports at 80% today, I can fix that by paying the cards down to $0 before the next statement date. Then, when the bureaus update, it is highly likely that my score would increase.

In My Wallet: Amex BCP (12/12) $50,000, Chase Freedom (12/12) $16,500, Cap1 Quicksilver (6/12) $14,000, Barclaycard Rewards (5/13) $10,500, Citi Prestige (4/16) $30,000

Last App: June 27, 2015
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