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How beneficial is it to leave oldest account open?

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Re: How beneficial is it to leave oldest account open?


@Shock wrote:

@NRB525 wrote:
Interesting theory. I have cards with low limits, the $1.5k is from 2005, so by that logic... wait, it isn't logical, it's only interesting Smiley Happy

Keep it open. $4k is not a bad limit, and the ageing benefit far outweighs any other algorithm issues you might imagine. Your card count is very low too, and the more lenders you have, the more you will attract.


burnnnnnnnnnnnnnn lol. i only want 5 cards. im pretty low maintenance...is this too low?


No. 5 cards is plenty. 3 or so cards is enough. For those wanting optimized cash back strategies, 5 or so is close to enough. For optimized overall cash/points strategies, more is needed. For people who want big sign up bonuses and plan on canceling and getting new cards, you might need 10-15 at a time. Some people go for as many cards as they can get, but no reason for everyone to do the same. 
 

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Shock
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Re: How beneficial is it to leave oldest account open?


@taxi818 wrote:
His card count is low with 8???Smiley Very Happyfico member crack me up.. oooh i forget the other guy with 39.CA has over 64.so he is truly infant on the card count. me too. lol

 

you counted my "total lines" as a card lol. i only have 7 in my sig. but you are crrect, i have 8. my csp is due to arrive tomorrow Smiley Happy

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Shock
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Re: How beneficial is it to leave oldest account open?


@Anonymous wrote:
No. 5 cards is plenty. 3 or so cards is enough. For those wanting optimized cash back strategies, 5 or so is close to enough. For optimized overall cash/points strategies, more is needed. For people who want big sign up bonuses and plan on canceling and getting new cards, you might need 10-15 at a time. Some people go for as many cards as they can get, but no reason for everyone to do the same. 

my friend has had one wells fargo card his whole life, his only credit card ever. 7 years old now. plus one student loan. his EX was 795. blew my mind

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Anonymous
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Re: How beneficial is it to leave oldest account open?


@Shock wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
No. 5 cards is plenty. 3 or so cards is enough. For those wanting optimized cash back strategies, 5 or so is close to enough. For optimized overall cash/points strategies, more is needed. For people who want big sign up bonuses and plan on canceling and getting new cards, you might need 10-15 at a time. Some people go for as many cards as they can get, but no reason for everyone to do the same. 

my friend has had one wells fargo card his whole life, his only credit card ever. 7 years old now. plus one student loan. his EX was 795. blew my mind


 

 

You don't need multiple cards to have a high score, but more than 1 card makes it easier. Also more trade lines means easier to keep an high AAoA with new accounts. Nothing wrong with going with 1 card, but generally 3 or so is better for your score in the long run. People who gets tons of cards tend to have lower scores due to the inquiries, new accounts, and lower AAoA. But for best scores, having 3 or more really old CC lines is probably best. 

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Shock
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Re: How beneficial is it to leave oldest account open?

Will that get you to 800 without a mortgage?

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Chris679
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Re: How beneficial is it to leave oldest account open?

Only 1 thing gets you to 800...time.
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NRB525
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Re: How beneficial is it to leave oldest account open?

+1

 

And Shock, you have a good score. Where I'm coming from is, why do you want to mess with it? There is no good reason to close that account, and plenty of positives to keep it open.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: How beneficial is it to leave oldest account open?

Too much angst!   Closing it or leaving it open will make very little pratical difference, so do whatever you think you prefer (which sounds like getting rid of the icky subprime Cap One card!)

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Anonymous
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Re: How beneficial is it to leave oldest account open?


@TheGardner wrote:
It will continue to help for age of account + 10 years from the date you close it. So you will start that clock.

Also accounts that are old have greater weight during manual review showing you are capable of managing the account for X number of years.

+1

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Shock
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Re: How beneficial is it to leave oldest account open?


@Anonymous wrote:

Too much angst!   Closing it or leaving it open will make very little pratical difference, so do whatever you think you prefer (which sounds like getting rid of the icky subprime Cap One card!)


True story....lol. Thanks guys for talking me down. I'll probably leave it open untl they close it. Or make 1 charge ever three months or so. Too bad I don't chew gum that much, but I like altoids!

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