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How many credits lines at once is too many?

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Anonymous
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Re: How many credits lines at once is too many?


@smallfry wrote:
I personally think that 5 revolving credit limits is perfect.

 

For most purposes five works out really well and FICO likes five!

  

I have nine - with Macy's = 2 and PenFed = 2. That's really no problem and there will be more.

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: How many credits lines at once is too many?

 

  Credit, I understand exactly what you are saying, but in my case for example my family shops at Macy's, Bloomingdales, Best Buy the store cards I applied for. So in the case of the store cars the in store and online discounts the give you are just plain crazy! So we are cycling money through the store cards now and pif instead of using debit cards. As for the credit cards for example the AMEX was used this week for 2k of travel and hotels and will be paid in full. My citi plat was used to pay a 2k insurance bill, a large cell bill etc. My points obtained from these transactions this month are super. I am now 100 percent addicted to "points and perks" and will hardly ever carry a debit card again.

    I thought my scores would have dropped more and stayed there longer but when the card usage and payments reached 90 days they started the upward trend again and my TU sits at 790 as of yesterday.

    I will always be aware of the fact that bad things can happen and sometimes do, I believe that your payment history pays a part in the formulas somewhere. When I was not approved for my last airline card last week I called and explained exactly what and why I was applying and the rep agreed and said no problem.

   I am involved in the worst real estate market in the US on a daily basis and can tell you the sky may have been falling but good things are happening now and I see a bright future in spite of the adverse problems we must still address in the real estate market coming soon (commercial foreclosures)

  I think banks will continue to adjust credit limits based on your usage and payments and truth is so many people had some serious limits that never used them!

   I read and learn daily here and know very well I pushed the limits. If my kids are going to benefit from having tens of thousands of dollars in AU accounts in the starting credit profiles then mission accomplished.

   For me, as long as I can get on the plane, buy my milk or movie ticket without cash I am good to go!

 However I must warn you I may become a "perk junkie" when I read what some cards will give you to sign up and use the card I am flabbergasted! It is just like getting that free toaster from the bank years ago! Gotta love it!

  I just believe responsible useage is part of the overall decisions and if your scores go down they will go back up and recover once your track record is established again.

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Anonymous
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Re: How many credits lines at once is too many?

It's not the number of open CL's and it's not the recoverable impact on FICO. It is all the new accounts showing on the CBR's in a clump and all the recent INQ's. Once you get some "mileage" on those cards everything will be fine. I just wouldn't want those striving to establish or rebuild credit to think that app'ing for ten cards within a month is a good idea. For most it is going to lead to problems. You now know where the saturation point is. And yes, CC perks and discounts are great!

 

BTW - I live in FLL and I know exactly what is going on with our real estate. The commercial bust could actually be a very serious problem.

 

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Anonymous
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Re: How many credits lines at once is too many?

All I really wanted to know was how to distinguish/identify a "good" that wil grow with me and one that will not.  I lonly posted in this thread because that topic was mentioned more than once and I was hoping that whomever mentioned it might clarify.  I believed my question was relevant to this thread because it had been mentioned here, but given the response from creditwherecreditisdue it seems I've invaded this thread.  I'm not interested in starting a new thread nor getting a full analysis, I really just had a simple question.
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haulingthescoreup
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Re: How many credits lines at once is too many?

A rebuilder card is available to those with shakier credit and/or lower scores. Some of the issuers include (or included) First Premiere, Tribute, Hooters, some of the Cap One cards, Orchard, most of the HSBC cards, and Continental. I wrote "included" because several programs have recently shut down, due to no one wanting to touch their portfolios, as I understand.

Rebuilder cards commonly fee you to death, including charging a fee to pay your bill online. Some have monthly AND annual fees.

So if your scores aren't very good, let's say under 620 these days, you might only be able to get a rebuilder. And there's nothing wrong with them, as the are meant as a tool in rebuilding. But after a while, the generally poor CS and the fees will make you crazy. So I always say to just get two initially, take care of them perfectly for six months, then try for a secured card from a credit union, BofA, etc., keep it going for six months while still working the first two, and then check your FICO's. By then, with the most recent 12 months of history perfectly clean, you can probably qualify for a good card, depending on what else is on your reports.

Good cards are considered those issued by credit unions and by the big-boy banks. (Heads back to favorite hiding place under dining room table as uproar commences.) Many of these banks are loathed by lots of people because of some of the actions taken within the last year in reaction to the economic mess, so you'll certainly hear plenty of folks say that BofA, Chase, AmEx, etc aren't good. A better definition of "good" might be minimal or no fees, good initial CL's or the reasonable potential for them to grow with you, clearly presented terms and conditions, and good to excellent customer service. This includes most credit union cards, which is why they've become so popular here.

--hth
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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Anonymous
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Re: How many credits lines at once is too many?

 

 

   Credit I agree 100 percent. It could be credit suicide for someone trying to climb from the bottom of the ladder to apply for much in any 90 day period!

I just believe it is all relative to what you have as a track record and where you want to end up in a year or so.

6 months ago I only had 3 cards reporting and nothing else (morg paid 10 years ago) and my score was in 800's I strongly believe that credit will come in line with all markets where you must finally have to prove you are who you say you are as far as identity.

   I bet from my past experience that for someone starting out the magic number will be at least 3 and most likely 5. over a year if you can end up with those numbers and age them with regular use it will all work out! Yes some of this information is nonsense, (I buy my pet products at Walmart on my AMEX) and have never seen any bad things happen! They really don't care what you buy as long as you end up paying! They make money going in and going out!

  Just give me those points, I feel like a kid collecting pokey man cards!

 

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Anonymous
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Re: How many credits lines at once is too many?


@Anonymous wrote:

 

 

   Credit I agree 100 percent. It could be credit suicide for someone trying to climb from the bottom of the ladder to apply for much in any 90 day period!

I just believe it is all relative to what you have as a track record and where you want to end up in a year or so.

6 months ago I only had 3 cards reporting and nothing else (morg paid 10 years ago) and my score was in 800's I strongly believe that credit will come in line with all markets where you must finally have to prove you are who you say you are as far as identity.

   I bet from my past experience that for someone starting out the magic number will be at least 3 and most likely 5. over a year if you can end up with those numbers and age them with regular use it will all work out! Yes some of this information is nonsense, (I buy my pet products at Walmart on my AMEX) and have never seen any bad things happen! They really don't care what you buy as long as you end up paying! They make money going in and going out!

  Just give me those points, I feel like a kid collecting pokey man cards!

 


That's a good one!  Smiley Very Happy

Message 27 of 29
Anonymous
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Re: How many credits lines at once is too many?


@haulingthescoreup wrote:
A rebuilder card is available to those with shakier credit and/or lower scores. Some of the issuers include (or included) First Premiere, Tribute, Hooters, some of the Cap One cards, Orchard, most of the HSBC cards, and Continental. I wrote "included" because several programs have recently shut down, due to no one wanting to touch their portfolios, as I understand.

Rebuilder cards commonly fee you to death, including charging a fee to pay your bill online. Some have monthly AND annual fees.

So if your scores aren't very good, let's say under 620 these days, you might only be able to get a rebuilder. And there's nothing wrong with them, as the are meant as a tool in rebuilding. But after a while, the generally poor CS and the fees will make you crazy. So I always say to just get two initially, take care of them perfectly for six months, then try for a secured card from a credit union, BofA, etc., keep it going for six months while still working the first two, and then check your FICO's. By then, with the most recent 12 months of history perfectly clean, you can probably qualify for a good card, depending on what else is on your reports.

Good cards are considered those issued by credit unions and by the big-boy banks. (Heads back to favorite hiding place under dining room table as uproar commences.) Many of these banks are loathed by lots of people because of some of the actions taken within the last year in reaction to the economic mess, so you'll certainly hear plenty of folks say that BofA, Chase, AmEx, etc aren't good. A better definition of "good" might be minimal or no fees, good initial CL's or the reasonable potential for them to grow with you, clearly presented terms and conditions, and good to excellent customer service. This includes most credit union cards, which is why they've become so popular here.

--hth

Why would there be a hubbub when what you say is so true and your suggested approach so sensible?   Smiley Wink

Message 28 of 29
haulingthescoreup
Moderator Emerita

Re: How many credits lines at once is too many?

Smiley Wink back atcha!
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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