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How much do you value a HP?

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Anonymous
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Re: How much do you value a HP?

We bought a new car last month, so I got quite a few HPs from banks and the dealership. Prior to that, I dont have any HP for 2 years. I feel that its all worth it since we got a good deal for the car.

Then, I went on a app spree and took in more HP. I got 15 on EQ, 2 on TU, and 7 on EX alltogether. I got 2 cards with 0% APR on both purchases and BT for 12 months. So, I plan to garden until next year. And these cards help my DH score too as he is AU.

As others have said, you will need to weight the benefits and decide for yourself Smiley Happy
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eagle2013
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Re: How much do you value a HP?


@Dw4250 wrote:

@NoAnchoviesPlease wrote:

I want to keep it to around 3/year per CRA. Ultimately if it's a card I have a use for, or could have more of a use for, I'll take a hit. 

 

The only wasted ones are the ones that don't stand much of a chance of helping. And ultimately, like acne, they go away. So don't skip prom because of a hard pull. Smiley Happy


+1

 

HP's are precious so should not be used unwisely.  I am a big believer that while there is no definitive 'good' or 'bad' number of HP, it is important to use them strategically.  In my case, I recently did a major app spree that cost me 7 INQ on TU; 5 on EX and 1 on EQ.  I took a pretty big INQ hit, but was able to net most of the cards in my sig and went from $500 in unsecured credit to more than $35K in available credit.  So to me, the HPs were worth it.

 

Having said that, I would not recommend this strategy for everyone.   For me, the app spree was a once in a lifetime deal.  I was in a good place in my life where I could afford to take the temporary INQ/TL hit.  I bought a new car prior to the spree, and plan to stay in my current home for at least another year.  Therefore I have no plans to apply for anything major for at least 12-15 months.  And once my scores recover, I will actually be in a stronger overall position credit wise.

 

Bottom line if it's a card you really want/need, then I say go for it and take the HP.  However, you must always keep in mind there may be something truly important you want to app for (i.e. car loan or a new/refi mortgage), and that should come before any credit card app.  It would be a shame to get a denial/less than favorable terms on a mortgage because you needlessly burned through HP's...   

 

2-3 HP per year per report seems like a reasonable number to me.


I would say this closely resembles my strategy. I think there is value in apping for your core cards/limits at one time, especially if there isn't a major purchase coming into play in the future. 

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SuperKirby
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Re: How much do you value a HP?

For me, a HP is only worth a new account for sign-up bonuses. Otherwise i leave it alone, no need for HP CLIs. 

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fot1
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Re: How much do you value a HP?

Hp's are worth about 8-10 points for me.. I kinda go off the guide line of 2-3 apps every 6 months and so far that has worked well.. Last month I added Amex BCE, Sallie Mae, and PSECU PSL/CC combo.. I plan to sit on those for another six months then look at CSP and Fidelity Amex.and ?? At that piont I will have eveyrthing I want covered... I think.. Outside of when I was looking to purchase a home I am not too concerened with using HP's

Too many to list..
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Juss11
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Re: How much do you value a HP?

When buying a house or a car all yur HPs only count as one in like  30 days, right?

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Anonymous
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Re: How much do you value a HP?

I have lots of foolishly acquired HPs on mine from about 6 months back. Since then I've gotten my AA "store" card, but all others have been SPs. I plan on doing a little 4-line spree within a few months, and then nothing else until the original ones are past 12 months old.

 

Personally I don't think the HPs are that big of a deal. But I avoid them unless there's something I really want.

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fot1
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Re: How much do you value a HP?


@Juss11 wrote:

When buying a house or a car all yur HPs only count as one in like  30 days, right?


Something like that.. But they have to  coded the same way..

Too many to list..
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dodgerslv
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Re: How much do you value a HP?

I have come to the point where i have slowed down on my apps. I went crazy in 2013 and added about 18 INQ on my EX report alonefor card products and one auto loan (i know, kinda foolish). Surprisingly about 80-90% of those HPs were succesfull for me. This year i have started with 6 total among all 3 CB so far. I will try to garden till september when i plan to try for the Cash+ and then Amex on Jan 2015 for backdating. Hopefully i can accomplish that. I gotta stop or else i will have a repeat of 2013.

gardening since 5/21/2016
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nhl1508
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Re: How much do you value a HP?


@SuperKirby wrote:

For me, a HP is only worth a new account for sign-up bonuses. Otherwise i leave it alone, no need for HP CLIs. 


Yes, this is my strategy too. I never took a hard pull for credit line increase, and it turns out just well.

 

My first card (Cap1 has just a $500 CL), not I got it up to almost $2000. Just 7 months ago, I got only about $4500 CL. Now all my total CL is more than $47,000. Even if I did hard pull CLI on all my cards back then (Discover, Cap1, Chase Freedom and Barclay NFL), I don't think I can get to where I am now. Compared to 4 assumed hard pulls for CLI with 5 hard pulls for all 5 new cards that I got, I am so glad that I apped for new cards.


So why not just spend your HPs on new cards, get a huge limit increases and some very nice sign-up bonuses on the process like I did? Your current trade lines will eventually catch up with auto CLI or SP CLI. 

AAoA 2 years back to the garden...
Amex PRG NPSL | Chase Southwest $9K | Chase Sapphire Preferred 11.2K | Chase IHG $5K | Freedom $6.5K | Club Carlson 9K | Barclay Arrival 4K | Barclays Aviator Red 13.5K | Citi Premier 5K | Citi AAdvantage 4.8K | Discover It $6.5K | Cap1Quicksilver $4.75K
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Involver
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Re: How much do you value a HP?

EX HPs are worth about 2500.

EQ 50

TU 10
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