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AyaMai
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Mobile Wallet Purchases - Credit cards

U.S Bank Altitude Reserve vs Kroger Rewards World Elite Mastercards. Which credit card would you choose and in which way does it differ from the other. Kroger owns Fred Meyer & QFC in my state of Oregon and Washington.

 

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Anonymous
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Re: Mobile Wallet Purchases - Credit cards

The cards are rather different so the choice depends on your mobile wallet spend (and other cards you have).  I think Kroger Rewards is capped at $3000  5% mobile wallet spend, with no AF.   The AR has an effective annual fee of $75 and uncapped 4.5% mobile wallet, so if you a) travel, b) spend a lot on potential mobile wallet and c) don't have a set of cards offering 4.5+% on many of your purchases, the AR makes sense.   If your purchases are much less, the KR might make sense

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CreditCobra
Frequent Contributor

Re: Mobile Wallet Purchases - Credit cards

There are many Kroker cards, personally I went for the Ralph's card. I used this card to pay my car and homeowner's insurance (via Apple Pay) which for me works out to around $2,900 a year so this is a near perfect fit.

 

I was looking for a way to get to 5% cash back on insurance which can be a rough category.

 

If I've missed any, please let me know.

 

It's worth looking at the various options if you're interested in one of these cards, as some have SUBs.

 

I don't know if it's possible to have more than one of these cards, that would be good to know.

Current Cards:

Stats (updated: 5/4/2026):


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ptatohed
Senior Contributor

Re: Mobile Wallet Purchases - Credit cards


@CreditCobra wrote:

There are many Kroker cards, personally I went for the Ralph's card. I used this card to pay my car and homeowner's insurance (via Apple Pay) which for me works out to around $2,900 a year so this is a near perfect fit.

 

I was looking for a way to get to 5% cash back on insurance which can be a rough category.

 

 

If I've missed any, please let me know.

 

It's worth looking at the various options if you're interested in one of these cards, as some have SUBs. (1)

 

I don't know if it's possible to have more than one of these cards, that would be good to know. (2)


(1)  Yup, and some have better ongoing ben's like the Harris Teeter 3% gas, dining.

 

(2)  Pretty sure it it possible!!!

 

Nice list CC!  Smiley Happy  

Everyday 5% CB:
Chase prime Visa // citi CUSTOM CASH “A” // citi CUSTOM CASH “B” // citi CUSTOM CASH “C” // citi ThankYou (5% gas, lucrative spending offers) // mylowe’s Rewards // Target circle card

Rotating 5% CB:
Chase “OG” freedom Visa // DISCOVER it Cash Back // nusenda CU Platinum Cash Rewards

Everyday 4% CB:
US Bank Smartly (v1.0)

Everyday 3% / 2.2% CB:
AOD FCU Visa Signature (3%, sockdrawered) // upgrade Cash Rewards Elite (2.2%, sockdrawered)

Welcome Offer / credits only:
NFCU FLAGSHIP REWARDS (elevated Welcome Offer, annual prime credit, sockdrawered)

Hotel card:
Chase IHG ONE REWARDS PREMIER (elevated Welcome Offer, 1 free night/yr)

On my radar:
Langely FCU Signature Cash Back (5% CB monthly selectable cat) // Safe CU Cash Back+ (Quarterly rotating 5% CB cats plus bonus cats) // upgrade MyFive Cash Rewards (5% CB monthly selectable cat) // US Bank Kroger (and family) World Elite Master Card(s) (5% CB Mobile Wallet)
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AyaMai
Frequent Contributor

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@CreditCobra wrote:

There are many Kroker cards, personally I went for the Ralph's card. I used this card to pay my car and homeowner's insurance (via Apple Pay) which for me works out to around $2,900 a year so this is a near perfect fit.

 

I was looking for a way to get to 5% cash back on insurance which can be a rough category.

 

If I've missed any, please let me know.

 

It's worth looking at the various options if you're interested in one of these cards, as some have SUBs.

 

I don't know if it's possible to have more than one of these cards, that would be good to know.


For my car insurance payments were used for SUB or to increase a specific card credit line for the last 2 years.  I do have a checking account with U.S Bank, and use U.S Bank Cash + Visa to pay my monthly Comcast, Portland General Electric, NW Gas and T Mobile bills which range between $650 - $700 per month.  Do US Bank co-branded cards such as Kroger and its subsideries have better approval rate and less sensitive to inquires than their own cards. Insurance is the only main monthly category bill or expenses that I do not have 5%  Cash back.

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AyaMai
Frequent Contributor

Re: Mobile Wallet Purchases - Credit cards


@CreditCobra wrote:

There are many Kroker cards, personally I went for the Ralph's card. I used this card to pay my car and homeowner's insurance (via Apple Pay) which for me works out to around $2,900 a year so this is a near perfect fit.

 

I was looking for a way to get to 5% cash back on insurance which can be a rough category.

 

If I've missed any, please let me know.

 

It's worth looking at the various options if you're interested in one of these cards, as some have SUBs.

 

I don't know if it's possible to have more than one of these cards, that would be good


 In the last 2 years I have used my insurance payments for SUB or to increase CL for a certain card. I do have a U.S Bank checking account and U.S Bank Cash Plus card to pay my montly Comcast, Portland General Electric , NW Gas and T-Mobile bills which range between $650 - $700.  Do US Bank co-branded cards have better approval rate and less inquiries sensitive than their own cards such as Kroger and its subsidaries. If I am not mistaken I think insurance is the only monthly category or expense that I do not have 5% Cash back. 

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Aim_High
Super Contributor

Re: Mobile Wallet Purchases - Credit cards


@Anonymous wrote:

The cards are rather different so the choice depends on your mobile wallet spend (and other cards you have).  I think Kroger Rewards is capped at $3000  5% mobile wallet spend, with no AF.   The AR has an effective annual fee of $75 and uncapped 4.5% mobile wallet, so if you a) travel, b) spend a lot on potential mobile wallet and c) don't have a set of cards offering 4.5+% on many of your purchases, the AR makes sense.   If your purchases are much less, the KR might make sense


The difference between 4.5% and 5.0% on the first $3K is only $15.   Personally, while I realize there are those who disagree, I just don't want to take optimizing rewards to the point where I've added lots of cards and complexity to my wallet and card strategy. So I would take the AR at 4.5% uncapped in this conversation, even with the effective $75 AF* over having to manage multiple Kroger accounts for the same amount of spending.  Even for those with modest spend, $3K doesn't go very far these days. 

 

(*That $75 AF can be further offset by $25/year if using the TSA Global Entry credit, so ...  $50 effective AF.  Plus you have no FTF, Priority Pass Airport lounge access,  and Visa Infinite benefits to include primary rental car CDW, $500K Travel Accident Insurance, Trip Cancellation/Interruption/Delay, Lost Baggage.  Plus shopping protections to include Purchase Protection, Return Protection, and Extended Warranty extensions.)  See >USB AR Benefits Guide<  and >Benefits Brochure with full terms<.


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ptatohed
Senior Contributor

Re: Mobile Wallet Purchases - Credit cards


@Aim_High wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

The cards are rather different so the choice depends on your mobile wallet spend (and other cards you have).  I think Kroger Rewards is capped at $3000  5% mobile wallet spend, with no AF.   The AR has an effective annual fee of $75 and uncapped 4.5% mobile wallet, so if you a) travel, b) spend a lot on potential mobile wallet and c) don't have a set of cards offering 4.5+% on many of your purchases, the AR makes sense.   If your purchases are much less, the KR might make sense


The difference between 4.5% and 5.0% on the first $3K is only $15.   Personally, while I realize there are those who disagree, I just don't want to take optimizing rewards to the point where I've added lots of cards and complexity to my wallet and card strategy. So I would take the AR at 4.5% uncapped in this conversation, even with the effective $75 AF* over having to manage multiple Kroger accounts.  Even for those with modest spend, $3K doesn't go very far these days. 

 

(*That $75 AF can be further offset by $25/year if using the TSA Global Entry credit, so ...  $50 effective AF.  Plus you have no FTF, Priority Pass Airport lounge access,  and Visa Infinite benefits to include primary rental car CDW, $500K Travel Accident Insurance, Trip Cancellation/Interruption/Delay, Lost Baggage.  Plus shopping protections to include Purchase Protection, Return Protection, and Extended Warranty extensions.)  See >USB AR Benefits Guide<  and >Benefits Brochure with full terms<.


The issue I see here is, with the Kroger series of WE MC cards, 5% is truly 5% (cash, king).  The USB AR is 'only' 4.5% (vs 3%) if redeemed for travel through their portal (and, really, less than 4.5% when you calc in the effective $75 AF).  How do we know their portal is the lowest rate?  And what if we just want cash and not travel?  For me, the flexibility of true CB is immensely more powerful than being constrained to one portal's travel options.  

Everyday 5% CB:
Chase prime Visa // citi CUSTOM CASH “A” // citi CUSTOM CASH “B” // citi CUSTOM CASH “C” // citi ThankYou (5% gas, lucrative spending offers) // mylowe’s Rewards // Target circle card

Rotating 5% CB:
Chase “OG” freedom Visa // DISCOVER it Cash Back // nusenda CU Platinum Cash Rewards

Everyday 4% CB:
US Bank Smartly (v1.0)

Everyday 3% / 2.2% CB:
AOD FCU Visa Signature (3%, sockdrawered) // upgrade Cash Rewards Elite (2.2%, sockdrawered)

Welcome Offer / credits only:
NFCU FLAGSHIP REWARDS (elevated Welcome Offer, annual prime credit, sockdrawered)

Hotel card:
Chase IHG ONE REWARDS PREMIER (elevated Welcome Offer, 1 free night/yr)

On my radar:
Langely FCU Signature Cash Back (5% CB monthly selectable cat) // Safe CU Cash Back+ (Quarterly rotating 5% CB cats plus bonus cats) // upgrade MyFive Cash Rewards (5% CB monthly selectable cat) // US Bank Kroger (and family) World Elite Master Card(s) (5% CB Mobile Wallet)
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xenon3030
Valued Contributor

Re: Mobile Wallet Purchases - Credit cards

I got Ralph's (5%, up to 3k per year). After a year, I got AR. Here are my notes:

 

I do suggest to go for AR only, even it has effective AF of $75. It gives 4.5% without cap on digital wallet (including Google Pay). It is my top card for in-store purchases at Costco. It is a Visa Infinite, having several perks for travelling and it is a good card to keep in a long run. Its SUB is great ($750) and in the first year, you can get the $325 credit twice.

 

Ralph's is a Master Card and it cannot get used for in-store purchases at Costco. It is not straightfoward to track the spends on some cards like this to see whether its cap got hit over a year. After receiving the AR, my Ralph's card went to SD.


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K-in-Boston
Epic Contributor

Re: Mobile Wallet Purchases - Credit cards


@ptatohed wrote:

@Aim_High wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

The cards are rather different so the choice depends on your mobile wallet spend (and other cards you have).  I think Kroger Rewards is capped at $3000  5% mobile wallet spend, with no AF.   The AR has an effective annual fee of $75 and uncapped 4.5% mobile wallet, so if you a) travel, b) spend a lot on potential mobile wallet and c) don't have a set of cards offering 4.5+% on many of your purchases, the AR makes sense.   If your purchases are much less, the KR might make sense


The difference between 4.5% and 5.0% on the first $3K is only $15.   Personally, while I realize there are those who disagree, I just don't want to take optimizing rewards to the point where I've added lots of cards and complexity to my wallet and card strategy. So I would take the AR at 4.5% uncapped in this conversation, even with the effective $75 AF* over having to manage multiple Kroger accounts.  Even for those with modest spend, $3K doesn't go very far these days. 

 

(*That $75 AF can be further offset by $25/year if using the TSA Global Entry credit, so ...  $50 effective AF.  Plus you have no FTF, Priority Pass Airport lounge access,  and Visa Infinite benefits to include primary rental car CDW, $500K Travel Accident Insurance, Trip Cancellation/Interruption/Delay, Lost Baggage.  Plus shopping protections to include Purchase Protection, Return Protection, and Extended Warranty extensions.)  See >USB AR Benefits Guide<  and >Benefits Brochure with full terms<.


The issue I see here is, with the Kroger series of WE MC cards, 5% is truly 5% (cash, king).  The USB AR is 'only' 4.5% (vs 3%) if redeemed for travel through their portal (and, really, less than 4.5% when you calc in the effective $75 AF).  How do we know their portal is the lowest rate?  And what if we just want cash and not travel?  For me, the flexibility of true CB is immensely more powerful than being constrained to one portal's travel options.  


That's not correct.  Real Time Rewards also has the 1.5x multiplier for points redeemed on Altitude Reserve when making purchases directly with airlines, hotels, car rental agencies, and other travel purchases.  It's not necessary to use the portal.

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