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wasCB14
Super Contributor

PC/closure plan for critique

I am currently in the middle of a retention offer on Prestige. I get a $50 credit each month I spend more than $1500. I have received $50 in each of the last few months. My annual fee will be billed on 6/22 when my statement closes. I have already used my $250 airfare credit for 2018.

Here is my plan:

In early June I will finish all price rewind searches early and receive all credits due. Around 6/23, after my statement has closed, I will redeem my remaining points for gift cards, as I will have no imminent travel to book and I don't use the TY partners. Any remainder points I will redeem for a statement credit. My statement closing 6/22 will include the $450 AF and a $50 credit for spending $1500+. I will ask to convert it to a Double Cash or other no-AF product (for continued history and to have a second card along with Costco for price rewinds). If this request is denied, I will close the account entirely. I will get to keep my most recent $50 credit, along with previous $50 credits, and get a full $450 refund of my AF.

I know I could keep the card until July 23 and possibly get another $50, but I am concerned I might forget to call within 37 days of the AF posting. I will stick with calling a few days after the AF posts. I am willing to give up that very last $50. I know the TY program has a few gift cards on sale right now, but they don't really interest me.

Can anyone think of anything I am overlooking or have incorrect?

Personal spend: Amex Gold, Amex Schwab Plat., BofA PR+CCR(x2), Costco
Business use: Amex Bus. Plat., BBP, Lowes Amex AU, CFU AU
Perks: Delta Plat., United Explorer, IHG49, Hyatt, "Old SPG"
Mostly SD: Freedom Flex, Freedom, Arrival
Upgrade/Downgrade games: ED, BCE
SUB chasing: AA Platinum Select
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Anonymous
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Re: PC/closure plan for critique

Looks pretty good, I suggest looking at the Dividend card. The only way to get it is with a product change.
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wasCB14
Super Contributor

Re: PC/closure plan for critique

What does the Dividend look like right now? I know it is or was a 5x card, but does it earn cash or TYs? What are the redemption options? Are the benefits pretty much the same as on DC? Does it still have rotating categories?

 

One factor nudging me to DC is that it's perhaps less likely to be replaced with something else.

Personal spend: Amex Gold, Amex Schwab Plat., BofA PR+CCR(x2), Costco
Business use: Amex Bus. Plat., BBP, Lowes Amex AU, CFU AU
Perks: Delta Plat., United Explorer, IHG49, Hyatt, "Old SPG"
Mostly SD: Freedom Flex, Freedom, Arrival
Upgrade/Downgrade games: ED, BCE
SUB chasing: AA Platinum Select
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Anonymous
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Re: PC/closure plan for critique

Dividend earns 5% cash back. Redemption options? Um...cash? Probably gift cards lol idk. I'm pretty sure the general benefits are comparable to any other basic Citi card. And yes you can find the rotating category calendar online easily just Google Citi Dividend calendar or something like that. One cool benefit compared to Freedom or It is that it's a $6k annual cap instead of a $1.5k quarterly cap so you can use the entire cap in one category if you wish.

The Dividend I think has been around long enough now despite not being open for new sign ups that I don't think the rug will be pulled out from under you if you get it. Even if they do force a product change you should be able to PC to the DC at some point anyway.
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UncleB
Credit Mentor

Re: PC/closure plan for critique

Another note about the Citi Dividend... unless there's been a recent change I believe the minimum cash redemption is $50.

 

This may or may not matter, of course.

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Anonymous
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Re: PC/closure plan for critique


@wasCB14 wrote:

What does the Dividend look like right now? I know it is or was a 5x card, but does it earn cash or TYs? What are the redemption options? Are the benefits pretty much the same as on DC? Does it still have rotating categories?

 

One factor nudging me to DC is that it's perhaps less likely to be replaced with something else.


The Dividend card is pretty crummy IMHO. It used to be a great card many years ago. Yes, it is a rotating 5% cash back catagory card; however, for me at least, the quarterly bonuses are of little or no use. Right now it is 5% cash back at home improvement stores.

January through March it was gas (first time in a while they offered gas) and car hire; July through September will be movies and airlines (somewhat beneficial if you are going to be traveling). The end of the year catagory is usually beneficial as it will be department stores and Best Buy....

 

I can confirm what UncleB stated; there is a $50 minimum redemption to account credit or direct deposit (and only if you have a checking account associated with the card that has been used to make a payment). I could have sworn that at some point in 2016 or last year that they changed the redemption level below $50 but sure as poo it is listed there when I log in. Until 20 July a Dividend cardholder can redeem for gift cards but that is going away.  The card can still be used at Citi's shopping portal to maximize cash back; however, unless one plans on using this card and the shopping portal often, it will take a very long time to reach that $50 for a redemption. 

 

Its not a bad card to PC to if you want to sockdrawer the thing for account age/utilization but it is not a great card. I think it looks better than the DC card if thats important to you Smiley Happy One thing to note about Dividend...unlike BofA Cash Rewards, Discover and Chase Freedom...the catagories are not themselves capped at a certain reward amount (i.e. $1500); instead Citibank caps the annual reward to $300. So if you have enough spend in one catagory over the other you can max out the cash back reward with that one catagory. 

 

So go with DC if you plan on really using it for the 2% cash back or go with Dividend if you can really use up the 5% on travel, home improvement and holiday purchases at department stores and/or Best Buy. As you stated about card replacement...a lot of Dividend cardholders have been getting offers to PC to DC (I am not one of those that has been offered the PC) and it is possible that eventually they may kill Dividend and force the PC but it hasn't happened yet. 

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wasCB14
Super Contributor

Re: PC/closure plan for critique


@UncleB wrote:

Another note about the Citi Dividend... unless there's been a recent change I believe the minimum cash redemption is $50.

 

This may or may not matter, of course.


I'll get to $50 eventually with it. Is $50.01 okay to redeem, or is it in increments if $50?

 

Out of TY Preferred, DC, and Dividend...do any of them have rewards that expire after a certain amount of time, even if a card is used once every other month or so?

Personal spend: Amex Gold, Amex Schwab Plat., BofA PR+CCR(x2), Costco
Business use: Amex Bus. Plat., BBP, Lowes Amex AU, CFU AU
Perks: Delta Plat., United Explorer, IHG49, Hyatt, "Old SPG"
Mostly SD: Freedom Flex, Freedom, Arrival
Upgrade/Downgrade games: ED, BCE
SUB chasing: AA Platinum Select
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wasCB14
Super Contributor

Re: PC/closure plan for critique


@Anonymous wrote:

@wasCB14 wrote:

What does the Dividend look like right now? I know it is or was a 5x card, but does it earn cash or TYs? What are the redemption options? Are the benefits pretty much the same as on DC? Does it still have rotating categories?

 

One factor nudging me to DC is that it's perhaps less likely to be replaced with something else.


The Dividend card is pretty crummy IMHO. It used to be a great card many years ago. Yes, it is a rotating 5% cash back catagory card; however, for me at least, the quarterly bonuses are of little or no use. I've heard the categories can be pretty strange. Right now it is 5% cash back at home improvement stores.

January through March it was gas (first time in a while they offered gas) and car hire; July through September will be movies and airlines (somewhat beneficial if you are going to be traveling). CSR will get almost all travel spend. The end of the year catagory is usually beneficial as it will be department stores and Best Buy....The categories do seem somewhat useful.

 

I can confirm what UncleB stated; there is a $50 minimum redemption to account credit or direct deposit (and only if you have a checking account associated with the card that has been used to make a payment). I could have sworn that at some point in 2016 or last year that they changed the redemption level below $50 but sure as poo it is listed there when I log in. Until 20 July a Dividend cardholder can redeem for gift cards but that is going away.  The card can still be used at Citi's shopping portal to maximize cash back; however, unless one plans on using this card and the shopping portal often, it will take a very long time to reach that $50 for a redemption. Good to know. I may just wait for get a $50 statement credit.

 

Its not a bad card to PC to if you want to sockdrawer the thing for account age/utilization but it is not a great card. I think it looks better than the DC card if thats important to you Smiley Happy One thing to note about Dividend...unlike BofA Cash Rewards, Discover and Chase Freedom...the catagories are not themselves capped at a certain reward amount (i.e. $1500); instead Citibank caps the annual reward to $300. So if you have enough spend in one catagory over the other you can max out the cash back reward with that one catagory. 

 

So go with DC if you plan on really using it for the 2% cash back or go with Dividend if you can really use up the 5% on travel, home improvement and holiday purchases at department stores and/or Best Buy. As you stated about card replacement...a lot of Dividend cardholders have been getting offers to PC to DC (I am not one of those that has been offered the PC) and it is possible that eventually they may kill Dividend and force the PC but it hasn't happened yet. 5% categories are sometimes useful. I have a 2.5%+ Amex and a 2.25%+ Visa. A fixed 2% MC in itself isn't of much interest. I mostly want to keep the card to reduce the effect of the recent Citi nerfs. I use price rewind aggressively, and probably did my part in bringing about the nerf to it.


 

Personal spend: Amex Gold, Amex Schwab Plat., BofA PR+CCR(x2), Costco
Business use: Amex Bus. Plat., BBP, Lowes Amex AU, CFU AU
Perks: Delta Plat., United Explorer, IHG49, Hyatt, "Old SPG"
Mostly SD: Freedom Flex, Freedom, Arrival
Upgrade/Downgrade games: ED, BCE
SUB chasing: AA Platinum Select
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Anonymous
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Re: PC/closure plan for critique


@wasCB14 wrote:

@UncleB wrote:

Another note about the Citi Dividend... unless there's been a recent change I believe the minimum cash redemption is $50.

 

This may or may not matter, of course.


I'll get to $50 eventually with it. Is $50.01 okay to redeem, or is it in increments if $50?

 

Out of TY Preferred, DC, and Dividend...do any of them have rewards that expire after a certain amount of time, even if a card is used once every other month or so?


$50 minimum but you can redeem $51.05 and so forth, so no increments.

 

The rewards do not expire on any of the cards as far as I am aware. I have TY points on my card that have been there years and it took years to finally get to $50 on my Dividend last year to cash them out. As always, they could always change the T&C's to include expiration in the future. 

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wasCB14
Super Contributor

Re: PC/closure plan for critique

If I PCed Prestige to Dividend, would I get a MC or Visa?

Personal spend: Amex Gold, Amex Schwab Plat., BofA PR+CCR(x2), Costco
Business use: Amex Bus. Plat., BBP, Lowes Amex AU, CFU AU
Perks: Delta Plat., United Explorer, IHG49, Hyatt, "Old SPG"
Mostly SD: Freedom Flex, Freedom, Arrival
Upgrade/Downgrade games: ED, BCE
SUB chasing: AA Platinum Select
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