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So I am learning alot here so far and I thank you so much for all the information in this forum. One of the things that confuse me when it comes to reward credit cards are the cards that advertise points like alot of american express cards or sapphire and NFCU. How do you know the value those points give in comparison to cash back cards. Like cash back is easy to calculate since its simply a percentage of spending. But when you see 5x the points that sounds good but what does that equal to? lol. Forgive me if that sounds super ignorant but these lose me.
@Anonymous wrote:So I am learning alot here so far and I thank you so much for all the information in this forum. One of the things that confuse me when it comes to reward credit cards are the cards that advertise points like alot of american express cards or sapphire and NFCU. How do you know the value those points give in comparison to cash back cards. Like cash back is easy to calculate since its simply a percentage of spending. But when you see 5x the points that sounds good but what does that equal to? lol. Forgive me if that sounds super ignorant but these lose me.
Depends on the card. But NFCU points are worth 1 cent per point. So Flagship and Go Rewards are actually just cash back cards in diquise.
Chase UR are worth a minimum of 1cpp. That is if you take the cash back or statement credit option. If you have a CSP or CSR you can also transfer to travel partners. I booked roundtrip flights for my wife and I to Denver next month for 18,000 points on Southwest. So for what would be worth $180 in cash I got two $300 flights.
AMEX MR are worth a minimum of 0.6 cpp if you take the statement credit option. I am looking at using my MR next year to fly my family to Disney World at a cost of about 100,000 points on Delta. Cash value of those tickets looks to be about $1600. There are bonuses as well. Currently MR are transfering to Hilton Honors points at 1:2.4 so I can get a night at a Hampton Inn just outside Chicago for the equivalent of $45.
All depends on what you are looking to do with the points.
@EAJuggalo wrote:
AMEX MR are worth a minimum of 0.6 cpp if you take the statement credit option. I am looking at using my MR next year to fly my family to Disney World at a cost of about 100,000 points on Delta. Cash value of those tickets looks to be about $1600. There are bonuses as well. Currently MR are transfering to Hilton Honors points at 1:2.4 so I can get a night at a Hampton Inn just outside Chicago for the equivalent of $45.
All depends on what you are looking to do with the points.
I just got an AMEX Everyday card to do a balance transfer, and I have the opportunity for 10,000 MR points if I spent $1000 in the first 3 months. I thought that sounded like a lot, until I saw that it only equals $60 in statement credit. A $60 sign up bonus is pretty sub par. Although I guess I could look at it like it's a 6% cash back card for the first $1000.. maybe that would make me feel better.
@dlister70 wrote:
@EAJuggalo wrote:
AMEX MR are worth a minimum of 0.6 cpp if you take the statement credit option. I am looking at using my MR next year to fly my family to Disney World at a cost of about 100,000 points on Delta. Cash value of those tickets looks to be about $1600. There are bonuses as well. Currently MR are transfering to Hilton Honors points at 1:2.4 so I can get a night at a Hampton Inn just outside Chicago for the equivalent of $45.
All depends on what you are looking to do with the points.
I just got an AMEX Everyday card to do a balance transfer, and I have the opportunity for 10,000 MR points if I spent $1000 in the first 3 months. I thought that sounded like a lot, until I saw that it only equals $60 in statement credit. A $60 sign up bonus is pretty sub par. Although I guess I could look at it like it's a 6% cash back card for the first $1000.. maybe that would make me feel better.
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MR points really aren't meant for cash redemption. Travel is the best bet, otherwise you are probably better off with another card/reward system.
If your primary use for the credit card rewards is for airfare to visit family, you might be better off with a miles card rather than a points card or a cash back card. This would be especially true if you would be flying the same airline to all three destinations because you would be earning miles from flying and miles from the credit card.
@kdm31091 wrote:
@dlister70I just got an AMEX Everyday card to do a balance transfer, and I have the opportunity for 10,000 MR points if I spent $1000 in the first 3 months. I thought that sounded like a lot, until I saw that it only equals $60 in statement credit. A $60 sign up bonus is pretty sub par. Although I guess I could look at it like it's a 6% cash back card for the first $1000.. maybe that would make me feel better.
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MR points really aren't meant for cash redemption. Travel is the best bet, otherwise you are probably better off with another card/reward system.
Agreed. I really only got the card to do a balance transfer since the Everyday had no BT fee, so I wasn't worried about the reward structure since I didn't really intend to purchase anything on the card. The SUB made me pause, as I wondered what sorts of fabulous things I could do with 10,000 points! However, it doesn't seem like I can do much.. so I probably won't bother trying to get it and just pay off my balance transfer and close the card.
OP - Cash Back is pretty straight forward. Points/Rewards are variable - all depends on what you redeem them for. So for example - you could possibly transfer 115,000 Chase Ultimate Rewards points to your United Mileage Plus frequent flyer account and then redeem those miles for a Business Class ticket with flat bed seats on a LAX (or whatever) to London (or wherever) route. That ticket usually retails at $5000 to $8500 range. So you are getting a "redemption value" of 4.3 cents to 7.4 cents per point. that is ALOT better than cashing them in on an account statement for 1 cent per point.
In my opinion - buying an economy ticket to London for $1000 and then using 50k in United Miles to upgrade it to flat bed Business Class seats is a great option. Then you are getting 8 cents to 15 cents per point !
That of course is ideal - not everyone travels internationally. But that is an example of you get the most bang for your buck