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Reducing utilization to increase score - how much is enough to gain a 10-20 point increase?

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Reducing utilization to increase score - how much is enough to gain a 10-20 point increase?

My wife and I plan to get our first house in the next 90 days.  For mortgage purposes, we’d both like to bump our Equifax credit scores 10-25 points to 680 minimum.  We don't have any shared credit.  Our credit score situations are as follows:

 

Me:  Today’s Equifax score is 659.  I have a chapter 7 bankruptcy discharge 10/2002.  Post-bankruptcy, I have re-established my credit.  I have a paid auto loan and another auto loan that’s been open 12 months (no late pays).  My revolving utilization is currently reported as 60-70%.  That includes an “authorized user” on a closed Chase account  (opened 2005) with a balance and 6 other open accounts, including 4 with balances (Dell, Discover Direct Rewards, Juniper, Wamu).   I “de-authorize user’ed” myself last week on the Chase account, concerned that the balance was contributing to my utilization, but the closed credit limit was not.  I will pay my revolving accounts enough to reduce my utilization below 50% within the next two weeks, and below 33% within 15-30 days.   I have a 30-day late pay on 3 revolving accounts (all from February 2004).  Last week, I sent 1) goodwill letters to the creditors asking to remove the late reporting, 2) a dispute letter to the CRAs disputing the late reporting, 3) a dispute letter to the CRAs regarding a pre-bankruptcy revolving account that is reporting as collection/charge-off instead of “discharged in bankruptcy”, and 4) a dispute letter to the CRAs regarding a $59 collection from 11/2002.  I have no other post-bankruptcy collections. 

 

Can I reasonably expect a credit score increase of at least 21 points within 90 days from these actions, particularly the reduced utilization from above 50% to below 33%?  Is there something else I should be doing?      

 

Wife: Today’s Equifax score is 670.  Wife has a 10-year+ credit history.  She is 13 months into her first auto installment loan.  She has multiple revolving accounts with a  3 year+ history.  She has five 30-day lates, all from February 2004.  Last week, she sent goodwill letters to the creditors asking to remove the late reporting and dispute letters to the CRAs regarding the late reporting.  She has no collections, bankruptcy, or other derogatories.   Her main issue is utilization, which has been between 55-75% for at least 2 years.  For the first time in at least 2 years, she dropped below 50% utilization (to 45%) within the last 45 days.  She has one closed revolving account with 72% utilization.  We haven’t paid it off because the interest rate remains  lower than some of our other accounts, and we’ve been trying to pay off the higher interest accounts first.  We could pay it off within the next 30 days.        

 

Will dropping below 50% overall utilization increase her credit score at least 10 points in the next 90 days?  Assuming the 30-day lates remain on her report, will they affect her score less when they turn 3 years old in February?  Is there something else she should be doing? 

 

I’m unsure if the closed revolving account balance is contributing to her overall utilization, but not contributing to her overall credit limit.   If so, perhaps we should pay it off to reduce her utilization. 

 

Within the next 90 days, it might be possible to reduce her overall utilization from 45% to 38%.  I do not think we can get it below 33%.   If we’re moving into our first house in the next 90 days, we might have better ways to allocate the funds we might otherwise spend reducing her utilization to 38%.  Now that it is below 50%, does it matter credit-score wise if her utilization is closer to 38% than 45%? 

 

I’m making some assumptions here that the “magical” utilization percentages are below 50%, below 33%, below 25%, and below 10%.  Is that substantially correct? 

 

Thanks for your responses.  If you have general questions about bankruptcy, I can probably answer them.  I’ve been a practicing bankruptcy attorney for over 5 years. 

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Re: Reducing utilization to increase score - how much is enough to gain a 10-20 point increase?

Dropping below 50% will  increase your scores, by how much is anyone's guess.  If you can pay all balances down by that amount and wait for them to report, then see ho far if any further you need to go.  below 30 is better.
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Re: Reducing utilization to increase score - how much is enough to gain a 10-20 point increase?

From 44% to 17% was 75 points for me.

I agree with Brammy to get UTL down as quick as you can-

Ideal is Under 10% on less than 1/2 of cards.
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Re: Reducing utilization to increase score - how much is enough to gain a 10-20 point increase?

Him-  Yes your doing the right things and below 30% if you can possibly swing it.
 
Her-  Get that closed card with a balance paid off toot sweet!  She is taking a rather large hit from that one alone.  Then of course work on the util.
 
What your doing should help get you to where you need to be.  Keep in mind that having high util for long periods of time then paying it down won't help as much as having high util all of a sudden so given your situation I wouldn't expect as much FICO luv as some people that charge up, take the hit, and then bring it back down again.  (That last statement should open another can of worms but hopefully in a new topic rather than in your thread)
 
Van
 
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Re: Reducing utilization to increase score - how much is enough to gain a 10-20 point increase?

Choose your 90 days wisely. I noticed you were throwing that 90 day number around a lot. Does this mean that in roughly 90 days they are going to pull both you and your wife's credit scores? Thats what I got from your message.
 
In that case you will have quite an accounting feet on your hand. You need to know statement dates. Two of my CCs had statement dates on the 7th of this month. My SW account alerted me on the 13th of December about my increase in balances so I will have to assume that this is when they "hit" my CR. So that's 6 days. To be on the safe side I would post payments online at least two days before my typical statement date in order to ensure that this amount is what is reported to the CRAs.
 
So let's say 90 days is roughly March 18th. Minus a day to be conservative and 6 days for reporting from statement date puts your latest statement date possible at March 11th. Since all of your statement dates are month by month, the latest possible statement date for this effect will be the statement date for each card/revolving account that falls between February 11th and March 10th (being a little conservative... took one more day off). Figure out what the date is for each card so that you can tell if you are gonna be able to make it in time (best way to find out is to call and ask). Again don't forget that once you know your statement date in March make sure your payments are at least 2 days before the actual statement date. Maybe more if you notice that it takes a few days when you post payments online. DEFINITELY MORE THAN TWO DAYS IF YOU INTEND TO MAIL CHECKS. I don't mail checks for CCs so you're on your own on that one.
 
Hope this helps. You're gonna need this info if you plan on pushing this 90 days to the limit.
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Re: Reducing utilization to increase score - how much is enough to gain a 10-20 point increase?

To add and more so to emphasize:

One of your CCs could have a statement date of March 13th which, by what I just said, would be very risky. So you will have to go with February 13th. Take away two days for online payment and thats February 11th (in 83 days). If you intend to pay with a check through the mail, lets say that two days is 10 days. Thats February 3rd (in 74 days).
 
In order to get this effect in 90 days your last payment might be a week or more before the 90 days. Just putting it into perspective.
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