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Rent/CC dilemma. Help me understand better.

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CreditCuriosity
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Re: Rent/CC dilemma. Help me understand better.


@Imperfectfuture wrote:

@CreditCuriousity wrote:

@Imperfectfuture wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Pizza -  do they charge a fee if you use a debit card? If not, would it work to purchase a Visa debit gift card using your credit card, and pay the rent with that?

 

If not,  I would say that paying with a check is your best option. Smiley Happy

 

One additional thought -let's say you had a credit card on which you wanted to use that spend to gain a CLI; for example, Discover. You could consider using your Discover card for a time-limited period of a few months in a row to pay rent (use it, then pay it off a day or two later), and while there is no guarantee of CLI, it could help you achieve that particular goal. Then, go back to using a check and paying no fees under that method. Smiley Happy


The fee is the same for debit card.  Debit cards are free with Radpad.  But there is still the fee for the gift card itself.  It's best just to set up a cash back debit card with Radpad, maybe first use the Discover with Radpad because it is cheaper, then have the paypal account set up with cash back card, for free.  Not sure if debit cards are free with plastiq, but I have had zero problems with Radpad.  It is slowly becoming popular in the small complex where I live.


Paypal just changed their terms and conditions as well starting Feb 2016 incase you haven't seen..

 

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It is ran as a signature purchase.  Ah, guys.  I know what I am doing here.


Sure about that coming Feb 2016?  Appears you gotta put in pin now to get the 1% or 1.5% back unless I am still half asleep which is possible as I am currently laying in bed and working (working is losely used word here)

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Anonymous
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Re: Rent/CC dilemma. Help me understand better.

Appears you gotta put in pin now to get the 1% or 1.5% back unless I am still half asleep which is possible as I am currently laying in bed and working (working is loosely used word here)
humuhumunukunukuapua'a wrote:

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LadyJEsq
Established Contributor

Re: Rent/CC dilemma. Help me understand better.

I had this very same dilemma when I first got my rewards cards. I didn't need to pay my rent with my CCs to meet spend for my bonuses, so it didn't make sense for me to pay my rent with my CCs, no matter how many ways I looked at (including RP and Pq). So, I continue to pay rent with a  check. However, 

 

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Imperfectfuture
Super Contributor

Re: Rent/CC dilemma. Help me understand better.


@CreditCuriousity wrote:

@Imperfectfuture wrote:

@CreditCuriousity wrote:

@Imperfectfuture wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Pizza -  do they charge a fee if you use a debit card? If not, would it work to purchase a Visa debit gift card using your credit card, and pay the rent with that?

 

If not,  I would say that paying with a check is your best option. Smiley Happy

 

One additional thought -let's say you had a credit card on which you wanted to use that spend to gain a CLI; for example, Discover. You could consider using your Discover card for a time-limited period of a few months in a row to pay rent (use it, then pay it off a day or two later), and while there is no guarantee of CLI, it could help you achieve that particular goal. Then, go back to using a check and paying no fees under that method. Smiley Happy


The fee is the same for debit card.  Debit cards are free with Radpad.  But there is still the fee for the gift card itself.  It's best just to set up a cash back debit card with Radpad, maybe first use the Discover with Radpad because it is cheaper, then have the paypal account set up with cash back card, for free.  Not sure if debit cards are free with plastiq, but I have had zero problems with Radpad.  It is slowly becoming popular in the small complex where I live.


Paypal just changed their terms and conditions as well starting Feb 2016 incase you haven't seen..

 

pay.JPG


It is ran as a signature purchase.  Ah, guys.  I know what I am doing here.


Sure about that coming Feb 2016?  Appears you gotta put in pin now to get the 1% or 1.5% back unless I am still half asleep which is possible as I am currently laying in bed and working (working is losely used word here)


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Increasing numbers of merchants now are allowed to process bank-issued debit cards online or over the phone without PIN validation. Those merchants qualified to accept PIN-less debit payment can take advantage of all-in costs, which can be far below the expense of a credit card or a debit card transaction processed through the credit card networks.

 

Pin less based transactions are not signature purchases.  Comcast will send using this method now, if you store your card with them.  Humuhumu, once set up, runs stream less.  The same as paying for your coffee for the month.  Let it go, it's her choice.

 

 

 

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Imperfectfuture
Super Contributor

Re: Rent/CC dilemma. Help me understand better.


@CreditCuriousity wrote:

@Imperfectfuture wrote:

@CreditCuriousity wrote:

@Imperfectfuture wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Pizza -  do they charge a fee if you use a debit card? If not, would it work to purchase a Visa debit gift card using your credit card, and pay the rent with that?

 

If not,  I would say that paying with a check is your best option. Smiley Happy

 

One additional thought -let's say you had a credit card on which you wanted to use that spend to gain a CLI; for example, Discover. You could consider using your Discover card for a time-limited period of a few months in a row to pay rent (use it, then pay it off a day or two later), and while there is no guarantee of CLI, it could help you achieve that particular goal. Then, go back to using a check and paying no fees under that method. Smiley Happy


The fee is the same for debit card.  Debit cards are free with Radpad.  But there is still the fee for the gift card itself.  It's best just to set up a cash back debit card with Radpad, maybe first use the Discover with Radpad because it is cheaper, then have the paypal account set up with cash back card, for free.  Not sure if debit cards are free with plastiq, but I have had zero problems with Radpad.  It is slowly becoming popular in the small complex where I live.


Paypal just changed their terms and conditions as well starting Feb 2016 incase you haven't seen..

 

pay.JPG


It is ran as a signature purchase.  Ah, guys.  I know what I am doing here.


Sure about that coming Feb 2016?  Appears you gotta put in pin now to get the 1% or 1.5% back unless I am still half asleep which is possible as I am currently laying in bed and working (working is losely used word here)


They actually quit paying cash back a long time ago for those on my account.  Had to be careful how I coded att and comcast.  At the time, 1.5% cash back, each transaction (like quicksilver).  Used this before full on rebuilding.  Had account since 2003.  I know my mcc, and how to use it.  Smiley Tongue

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Anonymous
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Re: Rent/CC dilemma. Help me understand better.

Pin less based transactions are not signature purchases.  Comcast will send using this method now, if you store your card with them.  Humuhumu, once set up, runs stream less.  The same as paying for your coffee for the month.  Let it go, it's her choice.

 

 

 humuhumunukunukuapua'a wrote:


If it works great for you, I'm really glad -and there are also valid reasons others have mentioned on here that they do not do it that way. She definitely has plenty of good choices now, I agree. Smiley Happy
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Anonymous
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Re: Rent/CC dilemma. Help me understand better.


@LadyJEsq wrote:

I had this very same dilemma when I first got my rewards cards. I didn't need to pay my rent with my CCs to meet spend for my bonuses, so it didn't make sense for me to pay my rent with my CCs, no matter how many ways I looked at (including RP and Pq). So, I continue to pay rent with a  check. 

 

 


Good points, LadyJ Smiley Happy

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Imperfectfuture
Super Contributor

Re: Rent/CC dilemma. Help me understand better.


@Anonymous wrote:

@LadyJEsq wrote:

I had this very same dilemma when I first got my rewards cards. I didn't need to pay my rent with my CCs to meet spend for my bonuses, so it didn't make sense for me to pay my rent with my CCs, no matter how many ways I looked at (including RP and Pq). So, I continue to pay rent with a  check. However, 

 


Good points, LadyJ Smiley Happy


I remember that site.  Unfortunately, some of the cards no longer exist, it is a bit dated.  Very few cards actually work.  Better to have CU cards that give cash on same interest rate as other charges.

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JSS3
Valued Contributor

Re: Rent/CC dilemma. Help me understand better.

I'd be happy for the free year and pay with cash/check. Since there's no bonus spend to meet, all that's been suggested is a lot of work(with all fees looking the same). Not worth it.
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Anonymous
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Re: Rent/CC dilemma. Help me understand better.

As takeshi said early on, if you are not worried about meeting bonuses, which OP isn't, the basic calculation using rewards cards is VERY simple: do the rewards I get on the purchase overcome the fee.   And even with a 2% card, you would get  just over $18 in rewards, with the M/D fee being $25, so not worth doing. (With transferable miles cards, if you value TY or UR highly, might just be worth it with an MC card, but marginal).

 

So forget the option, either check or some more creative option.  With the FNBO or Fid Amex, you could load serve, get the $18 in rewards and pay no fee, but is the extra hassle worth it?  Maybe not.

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