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The only absolute rule in credit is to pay the minimum payment on time, every time. Everything else about credit is merely a choice of how to use credit.
There are some corner cases is scoring where revolving limits that are too high are simply ignored, so they don't help utilization there. The limits you are proposing are plenty adequate and you know about utilization enough to not have a concern there.
If you get an AMEX charge card, Green, Gold or Platinum, then that spend / utilization isn't influenced by a set limit anyhow.
Go ahead and reduce your limits. Another member here closed a number of cards, and took the time to set every limit of the half dozen remaining cards to exactly $20,000, all of them through requests to reduce limits. That probably makes OCD folks purr.
@disdreamin wrote:I wondered how crazy it would be if I contacted my banks and requested lower credit limits on my credit cards. I have a few accounts with Chase and one with AmEx and Citi. I'd like to take advantage of a nice SUB with a new AmEx card some time in the not-too-distant future and was considering requesting my limits on most of my exisiting accounts be lowered but don't know how that might impact future apps.
I don't carry cc balances month to month and usually only have a couple accounts post a statement balance. I'm not overly worried about % utlilization, although every once in a while I don't time payments well and might have a few thousand post - I figure if % util happens to be high for a month it will recover the following month.
Thoughts about this? I'm wondering if there are unintended consequences I haven't considered.
Not crazy at all. I too like SUBs and I lower limits whenever I feel the existing exposure becomes too high that it might impede auto approvals. Not a fan a recon, lol.
Like you I don't carry balances and don't worry much about utilization. I have put on 95%+ utilization on new cards right away to hit minimum spend and just let them all post. Yes it did lower the scores but what's the big deal? They will recover next month. Besides there is always AZEO if the needs arise.
Incidentally I have never requested CLI for any of my cards, ever. Some grew automatically over the years and others never changed, or got lowered by me.
However I do recommend keeping one card with higher limit just in case. For me it is my Capital One QuickSilver at $30K and that's way more than enough.
@NRB525 wrote:
If you get an AMEX charge card, Green, Gold or Platinum, then that spend / utilization isn't influenced by a set limit anyhow.
Go ahead and reduce your limits. Another member here closed a number of cards, and took the time to set every limit of the half dozen remaining cards to exactly $20,000, all of them through requests to reduce limits. That probably makes OCD folks purr.
Hahaha I laughed out loud at the purr comment. I'm sure my Target charge card limit of 4.6k would trigger some folks.
As far as AmEx, it's been forever since I held the green card. It was PC'd to Optima years back when it was their first revolver, then to various other cards over the years. I wasn't sure how the Gold or Platinum worked tbh, I know they are theoretically NPSL but I also realize there is probably some limit there somewhere, it's just a matter of whether you ever find it.
It was nice to wake up to posts sharing sentiments similar to mine about credit limits. I am not looking to turn anything into a toy limit, as I mentioned previously. I'll leave a few cards at 20-25k and the only one I'll take down to 5k is a Disney card that I am hesitant to close until I've use the accrued rewards.
To the person who noted that my desire to lower my limits was psychological rather than financial, I would wholeheartedly agree. In my opinion, much of what we do with our finances is psychological - it can have financial benefits, certainly, but there are aspects to it that involve everything from satiating desires to controlling impulses and feeling comfortable/safe. I guess that is why finances are such an individual thing.
Sure, there are basic requirements that must be fulfilled or there will be dire consequences, but everything beyond that is extremely personal and probably has a lot to do with upbringing and experiences. I grew up fairly poor and I am certain that experience influences my risk tolerance, for example.
Again, thanks to all for the feedback. My project this weekend is listing out the cards and limits and hopping on chat to see what can be accomplished that way. If I have to make phone calls, I will...I guesssssss. I will report back with the original limits and the results in case anyone is curious.
@NRB525 wrote:The only absolute rule in credit is to pay the minimum payment on time, every time. Everything else about credit is merely a choice of how to use credit.
There are some corner cases is scoring where revolving limits that are too high are simply ignored, so they don't help utilization there. The limits you are proposing are plenty adequate and you know about utilization enough to not have a concern there.
If you get an AMEX charge card, Green, Gold or Platinum, then that spend / utilization isn't influenced by a set limit anyhow.
Go ahead and reduce your limits. Another member here closed a number of cards, and took the time to set every limit of the half dozen remaining cards to exactly $20,000, all of them through requests to reduce limits. That probably makes OCD folks purr.
Banks and CU's love OCD customers
For those wondering how credit limit history may be displayed on a credit report, here's how one of my Quicksilver cards that took a haircut last year shows on TransUnion:
As for reducing credit lines voluntarily, although I have an obnoxious amount of credit for my income/resources I've never asked for a credit line to be reduced. So far this hasn't caused me any issues.
I can see why some might request a reduction(s), but none of those situations have ever applied to me. What has happened to me in the past was not having a high enough credit limit to handle something that was larger than usual, so I'm hesitant to do anything that would put me back in that position again.
(Note that the high balance on this card of $8.9k was to replace a roof, and only reported for a month. This is a good example of how it can be useful to have enough 'cushion' to make an unexpected large charge even though under normal circumstances I would never need that much all at once.)
@UncleB wrote:I can see why some might request a reduction(s), but none of those situations have ever applied to me. What has happened to me in the past was not having a high enough credit limit to handle something that was larger than usual, so I'm hesitant to do anything that would put me back in that position again.
(Note that the high balance on this card of $8.9k was to replace a roof, and only reported for a month. This is a good example of how it can be useful to have enough 'cushion' to make an unexpected large charge even though under normal circumstances I would never need that much all at once.)
Thank you for the example of how the history shows up on CRs, I appreciate it.
As far as leaving a cushion, I've considered my typical (and highest) monthly spend as well as what my highest balance posted has been over the past couple of years. I've also taken into consideration how I pay bills since I tend to do so biweekly (that's how we are paid) so my monthly spend and my posted balance are most often very different things. Given all that, I've decided to lower my limits to the following:
AmEx: 20k
Chase: 20k, 10k, 5k
Citi: 25k
My SO has two cards which are both at $25k, so I think that is a reasonable amount of credit for us as a household. I can always augment mine if I wish by requesting the limits be raised (unlikely) or apping for a new product that is a good fit for my spending habits (likely).
What were the original limits?
@Yankee2 wrote:What were the original limits?
AmEx went 30k -> 20k
Chase Disney 10k -> 5k
Chase Freedom Unlim 15k -> 10k
CSP 26.5k -> 20k
Citi was 25k and left it there for now, unsure if I'll drop that one or not
The Chase lines all got shifted around earlier this year when I app'd for CSP. Prior to that I had 26.5 on the Disney card and 25k on CFU. I figured I was at my internal limit with them due to having to shuffle limits to get the new card. My partner then app'd for the CSP about a month later and got 20k I think, so as a household I feel we were pushing it with them (although I suggested SO use personal income only when they applied, I think my app indicated total household income). Hope this info is helpful, and the pruning of limits was not as significant as dropping the previously held Barclay cards, I think those were about $40k just for the two lines that were closed.