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Petit3tee
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Re: Trimming Down

If I were you, I would close the qs1 instead. It's not your oldest, CL is low and AF. I'd keep the platinum just for the sake of it being the oldest account. The idea of not having too many cards for me (personally) is carrying one simple flat rate visa or master cash back card. I would suggest you

- keep amex

- keep discover

- keep care credit

- close qs1

- try to pc platinum to something else w/o AF like venture1

- not carrying too many store cards (perhaps just 1?)

- add a flat rate cash back, low apr or everyday use card to your wallet (i.e. cash wise or BCE)

Good luck and I hope you find my opinion somewhat useful! 

Current status: Gardening as of 5/2019 Projected: TBD

Message 11 of 16
zerofire
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Re: Trimming Down


@Anonymous wrote:

My ultimate goal to the credit game is not to have too many cards, but just the ones I need for a proper strategy. The AMEX Gold for it's great benefits, Discover It for the rotating categories, and my store cards that I actually use pretty regularly. Really, I'm looking to dump Cap 1 once and for all. The only thing this brings up in my mind is that doing so would drop out $1250 of my available credit (which I've at least replaced $750 of that with my WayFair credit). 

My biggest hesitation is that my Cap 1 Platinum is 9 yrs old, however stagnant. I can only upgrade it to a QS 1 and no CLI available (which is moot since I don't want the AF anymore). And my QS 1 is 7 years old and also stuck tied to a $400 limit. I have been using them more but have yet to see any benefits for it. Aside from my student loan, these are my oldest lines. I'm just getting tired of spending $79 p/yr for cards I hardly use. And, I honestly don't really need more credit than what I really need. I think removing some out would also remove any possibility of bad habits to occur, such as too much reliance just on those.

 

I'm sure the answer is a common sense "If you're not using it, why have it?" But there are other factors to consider, right? AAoA, rotating credit. Is it a good idea?


Hmm...I see what is happening here. If you look at your scores they average around just under 640 and this is being generous. This score is actually below average for the population even in the worst state. In the case of Capitol One to get access to the Quicksilver which requires "Excellent" credit you will actually need to bring your score up into the 680-720 range before the PC will show up as their offers are based on what you qualify for as well as what is programed in. For example I have a Quicksilver I want to make a SavorOne and cannot since Savor series PC's do not exist even though my scores would qualify me for the new account.

 

So basicly you need to do gardening if you have any plans to keep your longest accounts without AF's. My recomendation is to take the Capitol One Platinum and stuff it back into the drawer since it has no AF. As for the Capitol One QuicksilverOne wait until the card year is about to end, call in for a PC to the Quicksilver. If that fails ask for a PC to the Platinum and if that does not work close the account since a $400 credit line loss is nothing. In this case you can let Capitol One close the account for you when they finally figure out they are SD'd giving you an even longer history.

 

For your other cards you will need to wrap around the idea that the limits the bank gives you is not the same as what you can spend. Your whole idea of just enough credit to pay with does not a good FICO score make. I recommend recalculating your credit limits such that you set yourself at ~10% of the line limit to avoid temptation but allow good utalization.  So your $1,500 Discover It becomes a $150 limit card before you have to pay it off. Also over time you will need to get CLi's for Target REDcard, Khol's, and Wayfair to get out of toy limit hell. As your scores grow the Capitol One QuickSilver will become an option on any cards you keep with them. I know since they really want me to move to their Venture line. Lastly the new accounts, Chase charge off, and old lates are not helping your score.

TU:816 12/19/24 Bank of America--EX: 809 01/03/25 Experian--EQ:836 01/06/25 myFICO--Gardening since N/A
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Message 12 of 16
NRB525
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Re: Trimming Down


@Anonymous wrote:
I'm honestly not feeling the need for the two, aside from their age. I just have basically tossed them in the sock drawer and maybe use them once every couple of months. I've had two 30 day lates altogether with them.

I've really just been sticking to the Discover, for the most part. Also just getting what I need for where I need it. Paying it all off in full. Having Chase charge off my old Amazon card a few years ago didn't help (lots of hospital time with a pregnant wife).

Last time I tried for a CLI, I got the response that the card hasn't been used enough, which does make sense. So I began to start using it more over the past four months, and so the last CLI increase they let me know that I've been using it too much (paying it all off in full as I've been going through this). I think it's really just a general lack of interest. I picked up the Gold mainly because I will be using every aspect of it, and the benefits will really offset the AF on that end for me. 

I would keep the Capital One cards open. The AF is annoying, but it seems you are still very much in building / rebuilding mode. The limits on your cards are still quite limiting. The lates are an indication you need to monitor the accounts. If you haven't already, then set up autopay on all accounts to ensure you don't miss any more minimum payments.

 

Capital One has you bucketed. Eventually your best action is going to be apply for another Capital One card. If your scores have improved, and no more lates, then you should see a larger limit on the next CapOne card.

 

The Gold card will give you a chance to build a relationship with AMEX, and the use of that card won't hurt your utilization measures.

 

Your objective of keeping only a few cards is good. As noted by others, AMEX and Discover have limits to their acceptance, so you should also have VISA and/or MasterCard. The CapOne cards give you that.

Message 13 of 16
Anonymous
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Re: Trimming Down

I thank you all for the feedback and suggestions. It's really made me look at things in a different light as far as what I feel may be best. It's always easy to feel something is the right way when you haven't tried another. So I really appreciate the additional perspective.

 

I'll definitely keep the Cap 1 cards for a bit longer then and just simply garden. At this time, I don't see myself as needing to make any new apps soon or in the near future, so that should be easy enough, at least. And that suggestion of sticking to only using 10% of my limits only is a good idea that I honestly haven't just considered. I'll probably just put a little sticker label on each card to display its 10% usage threshold (math is easy, but just looking at something is simpler) to keep better track of my own habits. I'll definitely also be closing the WayFair card when I get into a better spot, honestly it was just simply to pad the util ratio and was a soft pull for approval. But I will keep the Kohls at least. It has been very useful and great for baby clothes shopping and I have seen steady growth with it, at least.

So next steps: Use normally, garden, keep everything 10% or lower with usages, try to PC my Cap 1 Platinum as my scores improve or just get into something better that gives me Visa or Mastercard access. I'll update as I go along the journey and see where it lands me. I'm definitely here to learn, at you all have been so helpful.

Message 14 of 16
Anonymous
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Re: Trimming Down

Another suggestion that could potentially help your situation is to give that CareCredit account some attention. I don't know if I'm just extremely lucky or what but at a time when my highest credit limit was $1,000 I got approved for the CareCredit account for a SL of I believe $1,000. Before I ever even got the card I went onto the app and requested an increase and it immediately bumped up, within a few steps, to a $12,000 limit. This blew me away and it is still my highest credit line to this day (until NFCU hopefully blossoms for me!).

 

I've heard lots of hit-or-miss stories about synchrony, but you already have the account so I'd research if a CLI with them is an option or not. For me it gave the perfect UTL boost I needed and helped out tremendously.

 

I like the idea of keeping yourself to only using 10% of each individual card though. Simple, but clever.

Message 15 of 16
Anonymous
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Re: Trimming Down

Unfortunately, not yet for the CareCredit. I tried for a CLI on it as soon as I got it, but no dice. Same goes for a week ago when I last checked. I'll need to go ahead and use it. I saw that they're finally supported at Walgreens pharmacies, so I may have to just switch my script to them for a while to get some usage in before they'll allow it.

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