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20K in CC Debt and trying to be Proactive

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pizzadude
Credit Mentor

Re: 20K in CC Debt and trying to be Proactive


@Anonymous wrote:

Sure.

 

$4500 at 20% is MasterCard through CitiBank

$6500 at 10% is Visa through a Credit Union 

$9000 at 12% is MasterCard through a Credit Union 


What are your minimum payments on each ?   10% and 12% interest rates aren't that bad for revolving accounts.

March2010 FICO® ~ 695 TU, 653 EQ, 697 EX
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Anonymous
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Re: 20K in CC Debt and trying to be Proactive

Total minimum payments among the 3 cards comes out to around $450 a month. The issue is I end up getting charge over $200+ in interest a month and thus continuing to pay the minimum payments seems to be just throwing money down the drain. 

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pizzadude
Credit Mentor

Re: 20K in CC Debt and trying to be Proactive


@Anonymous wrote:

Total minimum payments among the 3 cards comes out to around $450 a month. The issue is I end up getting charge over $200+ in interest a month and thus continuing to pay the minimum payments seems to be just throwing money down the drain. 


You could pay this off via a consolidation / personal loan, for example - $20K over 5 years at 12% would be $445 / month.    I'd explore this option if you haven't already.   

March2010 FICO® ~ 695 TU, 653 EQ, 697 EX
Message 13 of 23
CCrew
Regular Contributor

Re: 20K in CC Debt and trying to be Proactive


@pizzadude wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Total minimum payments among the 3 cards comes out to around $450 a month. The issue is I end up getting charge over $200+ in interest a month and thus continuing to pay the minimum payments seems to be just throwing money down the drain. 


You could pay this off via a consolidation / personal loan, for example - $20K over 5 years at 12% would be $445 / month.    I'd explore this option if you haven't already.   


I don't know I'd consider that an option? Trading a 10% card for a 12% loan, rolling over an existing 12%. Only place being saved is on the one higher interest card. All to end up with a payment that's within $5 or so of what's being paid now. Not to mention to stay away from a PLOC that doesn't charge origination fees. I'm not saying there's a better way because at those card % rates it's hard, but I can't see where the positive is vs potential pitfalls. 

I'd almost recommend contacting the creditors for what they have for hardship plans. 

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805orbust
Valued Contributor

Re: 20K in CC Debt and trying to be Proactive

I'd like to add that it may be time to dig deep on this one. $450 sucks I know, however for example if you could come up with $650 a month towards Cc bills, you could knock that lowest balance (which luckily is your highest interest rate) to zero in about a year and a half. Then you've got $650 to devote to the minimum payment on the next plus even more principal, and it will all go away in short order.

 

@SouthJamaica  mentioned the debt snowball. Instead of concentrating on reasons it won't work, perhaps take a step back and see if you can at least start it up, even at a smaller level.  Dave Ramsey has some great YouTube vids on this. In addition,  if your financial inflow changes in 6 months, you'll be able to speed it up. Maybe cancel cable, get a more reasonable cell phone plan, sell stuff,, eat a menu of rice and beans... obviously the how is up to you, however you'd be surprised at what you can find in your budget. I understand "wanting" at times to throw in the towel, but you may very well be able to do this!



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tnhomestead
Frequent Contributor

Re: 20K in CC Debt and trying to be Proactive

So about 700 a month pays it all of in 36 months.  Figure in 6 to 12 months you could possibly get a loan to cover the rest at a better rate. Or kill your credit for 7 years. Just something to think about, good luck

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FireMedic1
Community Leader
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Re: 20K in CC Debt and trying to be Proactive


@Anonymous wrote:

Sure.

 

$4500 at 20% is MasterCard through CitiBank

$6500 at 10% is Visa through a Credit Union 

$9000 at 12% is MasterCard through a Credit Union 


Try again. Need to see the util %. Are they maxed out or close to that point. It helps with a plan.

CitiBank/Whats the Credit Line?/4500/20%APR


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Remedios
Credit Mentor

Re: 20K in CC Debt and trying to be Proactive


@Anonymous wrote:

Long story short, Covid, some devastating personal life events, and other obstacles have helped me rack up around $20,000 in credit card debt between 3 cards. I know I will eventually default on this amount and paying the minimum with interest is unsustainable as well. So my question is what should I do?

I've put about 15 hours of research into this which has landed me on this forum. I started off calling non-profit debt consolidation firms that negotiate with creditors and you pay a monthly fee for their services. However, I've read mixed reviews/opinions on these companies and if they actually really do anything.

 

I have also just recently talked to a company **Mod Cut - Removed per myFICO TOS** that was helpful and coached me on how they could help me with the default process with an attorney and negotiate a better settlement. They were actually very nice and helpful explaining everything. For me, it seems like a good option for a relatively small upfront fee of $400 and a back end charge of the percentage they save me in the settlement. Using them would have me grant one of their lawyers power of attorney to act on behalf in negotiations with credit agencies/collectors. I'm unsure if this is a good idea.

 

As with anything nowadays, I did some research on them and they have an A rating with BBB but I read a few negative reviews on Trustpilot stating that getting a local attorney might be better (in much harsher words) and recommended checking out this forum to get advice about debt situations.

 

So here I am. And in the age of this internet it's hard to know who's legit and if they're telling the truth about their experience.  In conclusion, any advice is appreciated on how to deal with this debt. I haven't missed a payment ever yet and am merely trying to be proactive and prepare myself for the inevitable default or a way to avoid it completely without drowning in interest. My credit score is not my main concern now and it's the debt itself. Thanks in advance for any help. 


 

I understand that credit score isn't your concern right now, debt is.

With that said, what you're describing is planned default and the way that would happen is you would start missing payments till account is put in charged off status.

At that point in time, you become a free game for lenders/collection agencies. 

 

If they believe they can collect,  they will take legal action. After that, money will be recovered via wage garnishment/bank account liens.  

 

Once those accounts are charged off, you might be offered a settlement. You won't have much luck for years in terms of knocking down the amount you owe, typically untill you're out of SOL for state in which you live.   

 

Once dust settles, you will start worrying about scores, the effect they have these days on just about everything... utilities, mobile providers, rent, car rentals, background checks etc but it will be too late. 

I'm not advising you to worry about scores, I'm letting you know that just letting things go doesn't lead to peace. It leads to years of phone calls, different entities reporting, not making any decent progress for years, horrible rates if you need to borrow money. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: 20K in CC Debt and trying to be Proactive


@FireMedic1 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Sure.

 

$4500 at 20% is MasterCard through CitiBank

$6500 at 10% is Visa through a Credit Union 

$9000 at 12% is MasterCard through a Credit Union 


Try again. Need to see the util %. Are they maxed out or close to that point. It helps with a plan.

CitiBank/Whats the Credit Line?/4500/20%APR


Utilization rate is at 95%+ for each one.

Message 19 of 23
SlideOrInsert
Regular Contributor

Re: 20K in CC Debt and trying to be Proactive

"I know I will eventually default on this amount and paying the minimum with interest is unsustainable as well... it's getting to the point where I'm trying to prepare for a default since paying all of this back isn't feasible for me... At this moment, the methods you mentioned aren't feasible for me. 6 months from now could be a very different story but for now I can't contribute to paying off these debts."

 

is this because of lowered/loss of income? if that is the case then you have to do what you have to do, but I would hire a proper bankruptcy attorney before I would pay a fee to any other agency.

 

"The issue is I end up getting charge over $200+ in interest a month and thus continuing to pay the minimum payments seems to be just throwing money down the drain."

 

or is it because you just don't see the practicality of paying off the debts because of the interest?  as others have said, the blended interest rate for your accounts is ~13%. you say you're already paying $450 per month with just the minimums. with that fixed payment schedule you're looking at 6ish year payoff. bankruptcy follows you for what, 7-10 years? if you could even bump that up to $650 per month by means of budgeting or additional income you're only looking at a 3ish year payoff.

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at the end of 2018, with a blended interest rate of 18% I was at 30k revolving debt of 36k available. my score was in the low 700s with no derogatories. I acquired a personal loan at about 11% for 36 months. I spent 2019 making over the required payments on the loan. during those 12 months I was able to grow the credit limits on all my cards. in the beginning of 2020 I was able to take advantage of a 0% promo on one my cards and payoff the loan by moving the remaining balance. total interest and fees paid was about $2300. if I had gone with the snowball method I easily would have paid 2-3x that in interest.

 

point is, maybe there is somewhere feasible in between the bankruptcy cliff and paying a mountain of interest in getting out of debt.

 

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