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CA removed account after VOD but changed account#s and put it back

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CA removed account after VOD but changed account#s and put it back

Hi everyone! I've learned a lot reading here but I'm stumped on this issue. EOS removed a collection after I sent a validation letter. The same collection was put back recently with a new account number by the same collection agency. It was never marked as being in dispute. Do I need to send out another VOD or is there another way to handle this.

Thanks!!

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llecs
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Re: CA removed account after VOD but changed account#s and put it back

Did you send the DV within 30 days of their dunning letter?

 

In any case, I'd send another DV if collecting for the same OC.

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Anonymous
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Re: CA removed account after VOD but changed account#s and put it bac

Hi, I never received a dunning letter from EOS.I discovered this while checking CR. I know for sure the OC AT&T had my address.

 

The original collection account stated the original  balance was $1831 & the current was $2,161

Date Assigned:Jul 01, 2009
Date ReportedSmiley Surprisedct 01, 2009
Date Of Last Activity:May 01, 2009

I asked for validation in May, 2010 when I checked my credit score. They signed for the green card 5/21/10.

I never received validation back but the account was removed.

A few days ago the the same account with EOS was back with a  completely new account number and the following information was new.

Date Assigned:Apr 01, 2010
Date Reported:Jul 01, 2010
Date Of Last Activity:May 01, 2009

 

~~Thanks~~

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RobertEG
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Re: CA removed account after VOD but changed account#s and put it back

They apparently  have MULTIPLE FDCPA violations.  Who are these EOS people?  They must not have a copy of the FDCPA!

This is one of the worst FDCPA violation cases I have seen.  It is a blatant disregard for your rights, and an attempt to back door you.

I would hire a debt collection lawyer, tomorrow, and consider legal action.

First, when they initially posted to your CR back on 10/1/2009, that was an intial communication of debt under FDCPA 809(a) that triggered their legal obligation under FDCPA 809(a) to have provdided you with a collection (dunning) notice within 5-days of that posting.  YOu say they did not not do that, and you only later became aware of their collection activity by your own review of your CR.   So they had an initial FDCPA 809(a) vioalation after 10/6/2009 for failure to provide collection (dunning) notice toy you that is unrelated to  subsequent compliance with the DV process,.  Apples and oranges.

Since they did not send you dunning notice, you were never under any advised 30-day limit to request validation, and you then DV'd, in full compliance with FDCPA 809(b), in 5/2010.  So your DV request was timely, and later ackwoledged to have been received by them via green card recepit dated 5/21/2010.

On the day that they received your DV request, they were therefter barred under FDCPA 809(b) from continuing any active collection activity until such time as they validated your DV request. 

They apparently ignored their status as now being barred from active collection activity, and choose to again report their collection activities to your CR

That is about as clear a violation of FDCPA 809(b) as you will see.  FDCPA 809 deals with collection of a DEBT.  They are still attempting to collecti the same debt.

To delete the prior collection, and then reinsert it under the guise of a "new collection" by the same party on the same debt, thus securing a new CA account number with the CRA, is as shallow as you see it.  And, it is just a further violation of their prior FDCPA prohhibition, based on your earlie DV letter, that bars just such an action for furtthe collection activity ON THE DEBT without prior validation.

No, I would not DV them again.  You have an active DV that is still not validated. Dont play into their game of arguing reset of the collection activyt bar.  I would stand soley by my prior DV letter.

 

This is what I recommend that you do now.  I would draft up a letter fo the FTC (who is the gvt agency that enforces vioaltions of the FDCPA), and to your state atty gen, (who is the state agency that can brting legal charges of vioaltions against them), clearly outlining their violaltions.  Send them.

But those letters wont get immediate response from the FTC or the AG. .  So, in order to let the CA immediately know of your actions, just list the CA as a cc: in each of those letters, and forward a copy of each of those letters, remind them that you consider their practives to be illegal, and maybe also simply tell them that you are additionally hiring legal counsel to file a civil action against them for FDCPA violations, in additon to any actions that may be taken by the FTC or your AG.

 

 

 

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: CA removed account after VOD but changed account#s and put it back

Thank you Robert!  I think EOS is one of the Collection Company of America's companies.  The thing that I was unsure of was my credit reports showed ancient addresses. I recently updated these with the three bureaus. However, I know AT&T has the correct address. I am curious if EOS can claim they sent me a dunning letter at the old address when I would think the OC would of turned over my new address.

 

I'll keep everyone updated.

 

~~Thanks~~

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