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Credit scores and building CC portfolio

Thinking of improving/building my wife's credit portfolio as we plan to take out a mortgage in 1-2 years. We ran her free repors from all 3 agencies, and two 30 day late payments came up. We would also like to get her scores from EQ, TU and EX to better position ourselves with credit card applications. What would you say is a good place to get these? Is 1 agency score sufficient or should we get all 3?

 

Thanks in advance

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jamie123
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Re: Credit scores and building CC portfolio


@Anonymous wrote:

Thinking of improving/building my wife's credit portfolio as we plan to take out a mortgage in 1-2 years. We ran her free repors from all 3 agencies, and two 30 day late payments came up. We would also like to get her scores from EQ, TU and EX to better position ourselves with credit card applications. What would you say is a good place to get these? Is 1 agency score sufficient or should we get all 3?

 

Thanks in advance


A couple of questions...

 

How far in the past are the 30 day lates?

 

What types of credit does she currently have on her reports? Auto loan? Mortgage? Credit cards?

 

I would suggest pulling the TU score first. If her score is above 720 you could feel pretty confident in apping for credit cards. If it is lower than 720 then you might consider pulling the other scores.

 

Right here at MyFICO is the best place to buy scores. All versions are FICO 08 models which most credit card lenders use.


Starting Score: EQ 653 6/21/12
Current Score: EQ 817 3/10/20 - EX 820 3/13/20 - TU 825 3/03/20
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vanillabean
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I have no personal experience with late payments, but a goodwill letter is often recommended. Having even just one derogatory makes it tricky getting past a FICO 04/98 of ~700.

Don’t bother with new credit cards, if your wife has three already. Otherwise you may want to apply the difference. Credit union Visa cards are easy to get.

 

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Anonymous
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Re: Credit scores and building CC portfolio


@jamie123 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Thinking of improving/building my wife's credit portfolio as we plan to take out a mortgage in 1-2 years. We ran her free repors from all 3 agencies, and two 30 day late payments came up. We would also like to get her scores from EQ, TU and EX to better position ourselves with credit card applications. What would you say is a good place to get these? Is 1 agency score sufficient or should we get all 3?

 

Thanks in advance


A couple of questions...

 

How far in the past are the 30 day lates?

 

What types of credit does she currently have on her reports? Auto loan? Mortgage? Credit cards?

 

I would suggest pulling the TU score first. If her score is above 720 you could feel pretty confident in apping for credit cards. If it is lower than 720 then you might consider pulling the other scores.

 

Right here at MyFICO is the best place to buy scores. All versions are FICO 08 models which most credit card lenders use.


Baddies:

1) 30 day late - Macy's card - Jan 2014 - $37

2) 30 day late - Lord & Taylors card - Sep 2010 - $11

3) 30 day late - late on installment payment to a charity organization - Dec 2008 (only TransUnion shows)

 

Current open accounts:

1) Macy's charge - $2,500 CL - 0 balance

2) Lord & Taylor's charge - $500 CL - 0 balance

3) Toys R Us Master Card $700 CL - 0 balance

 

Closed accounts:

1) Installment payments mentioned above

2) Comenity Bank/Express - $100 CL

3) Commenity Bank/Value City Furniture - $1,720 (furnity financing)

4)Paypal Smart Connect - $600

 

Thinking of disputing Macy's late payment, as Macy's changed her address to some address where she never lived and sent the bill there. We took care of it immidiately when we found out, but it still shows.

 

 

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jamie123
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Re: Credit scores and building CC portfolio

The Macy's late is really dragging her score down right now because it is less than one year old. 30 day lates seem to lose their power to drag scores down as the years go by, but one 30 day late less than 1 year old is killing her score. You need to get that off of her reports before apping for new cards. Many lenders will deny you because it is a fresh late.

 

The Lord & Taylor late isn't impacting her scores as much but because of its age and it might be pretty easy to have removed.

 

If you are planning on applying for a mortgage soon, you want to have ALL of these lates removed beforehand. It is not that difficult to do but does take some persistance. You need to visit the Rebuilding Credit forum on this website and learn how to write GW (Good Will) letters. And really, it is not hard to do once you do the first one. This is the quickest way for your wife to improve her credit scores.

 

The year before you apply for a mortgage should be a quiet period on your reports with the only activity being you paying your bills on time and keeping your balances low. You can continue to dispute baddies during this time just don't apply for or add any new credit during this time.

 

Your wife is actually in pretty good shape. Lates are relativly easy to have removed and once that happens she will have clean reports. That is a BIG DEAL!

 

Just to be perfectly clear: Your wife already has enough credit cards and installment loan history to get the highest scores she is capable of. If you add credit cards now it will actually knock her scores down for about 6 months to a year. She needs to have 1 credit card report less than 10% of its CL and all the other cards report $0 for her best scores.

 

If you have more than 1 year after you get her reports cleaned up but before you plan on applying for a mortgage, I would suggest adding 2 credit cards. I would suggest apping for the Chase Freedom and the Discover IT cards. Both those cards seem to fit her current profile really well.


Starting Score: EQ 653 6/21/12
Current Score: EQ 817 3/10/20 - EX 820 3/13/20 - TU 825 3/03/20
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Anonymous
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Re: Credit scores and building CC portfolio


@jamie123 wrote:

The Macy's late is really dragging her score down right now because it is less than one year old. 30 day lates seem to lose their power to drag scores down as the years go by, but one 30 day late less than 1 year old is killing her score. You need to get that off of her reports before apping for new cards. Many lenders will deny you because it is a fresh late.

 

The Lord & Taylor late isn't impacting her scores as much but because of its age and it might be pretty easy to have removed.

 

If you are planning on applying for a mortgage soon, you want to have ALL of these lates removed beforehand. It is not that difficult to do but does take some persistance. You need to visit the Rebuilding Credit forum on this website and learn how to write GW (Good Will) letters. And really, it is not hard to do once you do the first one. This is the quickest way for your wife to improve her credit scores.

 

The year before you apply for a mortgage should be a quiet period on your reports with the only activity being you paying your bills on time and keeping your balances low. You can continue to dispute baddies during this time just don't apply for or add any new credit during this time.

 

Your wife is actually in pretty good shape. Lates are relativly easy to have removed and once that happens she will have clean reports. That is a BIG DEAL!

 

Just to be perfectly clear: Your wife already has enough credit cards and installment loan history to get the highest scores she is capable of. If you add credit cards now it will actually knock her scores down for about 6 months to a year. She needs to have 1 credit card report less than 10% of its CL and all the other cards report $0 for her best scores.

 

If you have more than 1 year after you get her reports cleaned up but before you plan on applying for a mortgage, I would suggest adding 2 credit cards. I would suggest apping for the Chase Freedom and the Discover IT cards. Both those cards seem to fit her current profile really well.


Thank very much for your very detailed post. I have couple of follow-up questions.

1) Before sending a GW  letter, can we try to handle this over the phone with card services?

2) We would prefer rewards cards to work around what I have (SM MC, Freedom, Discover It - she is an authorized user on these cards). We were thinking along the lines of: 

Barclaycard Rewards MC looks attractvie as it is rated for Fair/Good credit and gives 2% on utilities

Quicksilver - 1.5% flat cashback (It's Capital One)

Regular Sapphire - 2% dining, 2% travel through Chase portal (We heavilty use our checking account with Chase)

 

 

What is your opinion?

 

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jamie123
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To answer your questions...

 

1.Sure, you can try the phone first but don't be surprised when it doesn't work. The GW letters are proven to work but maybe not the first time. You might need to just keeping sending GW letters untill you get the results that you want.

 

2.Sure, get the cards that fit you best. The Barclaycard and the Quicksilver are pretty easy to get and are good cards. The Sapphire is a bit harder to get but your wife's scores should be really good if you get rid of the lates.


Starting Score: EQ 653 6/21/12
Current Score: EQ 817 3/10/20 - EX 820 3/13/20 - TU 825 3/03/20
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Anonymous
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Re: Credit scores and building CC portfolio


@jamie123 wrote:

To answer your questions...

 

1.Sure, you can try the phone first but don't be surprised when it doesn't work. The GW letters are proven to work but maybe not the first time. You might need to just keeping sending GW letters untill you get the results that you want.

 

2.Sure, get the cards that fit you best. The Barclaycard and the Quicksilver are pretty easy to get and are good cards. The Sapphire is a bit harder to get but your wife's scores should be really good if you get rid of the lates.


Thank you for your help.

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coldnmn
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Re: Credit scores and building CC portfolio

If she applies for the Barclay card and denied. Be sure to recon from the back door number. They are very good to recon denials.

 

 

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Backdoor-Numbers/m-p/408066

Discover IT $17k / US Bank Ace (VSig) $13.5K / US Bank Cash+ (VSig) $13.5k
Sam's Mastercard $15k / Walmart Mastercard $10k / Blispay $7.5k PayPal Ex MC $10.8k
CareCredit 5k / Husq $5k / Cap1 QS $4.5k / Barclay Ring $5.35k / Citi DC (WMC) $12k
Gardening Date 7/01/16 / MyFico 08: EQ 801 / TU 777 / EX 771 / 06/08/17
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Anonymous
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@coldnmn wrote:

If she applies for the Barclay card and denied. Be sure to recon from the back door number. They are very good to recon denials.

 

 

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Backdoor-Numbers/m-p/408066


Thanks! Good to know.

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