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nma851
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First Month Payment Rating/Status

First, I sure hope everyone is doing as well as they can be. It's been a while since I've bothered but I know a few heads are better than just this one!!!

Odd issue relating to the very first month an account is treated as far as the payment rating, not the account status. Those who are metro 2 knowledgeable, this would be fields 17A, 17B, & 18.

The reason for mentioning the particular fields/names is due to the root issue with the creditor not understanding that the month the account was opened has no rating with 2/3 CRAs. Granted, EFX & TU are a month "behind" with the rating per se but this has to do with the inception of, not the last status of, the account in question.

EXP & EFX both show PAA as the status and OK on the rating (GRID) for March - the same month opened, which also had a statement generate the same month. It was opened on 15 March and statement was 28 March, first reported shortly after this (1ST) statement cycle, along with the current balance, etc etc. it appeared on EXP first, then EFX, then TU 3 weeks or so later (didn't even check until week 2 knowing TU LOL).

TU, however, shows everything about the account the same with the exception of March does not have any rating unlike EFX & EXP. Looking at other accounts, the month the account was opened all have a rating for that month.

Further, there are only 18 months on TU compared to 19 on EFX & EXP. I have had 19 statements as well. Everything about the accounts age is 19 months except in TU's eyes LOLOL.

Nonetheless, every update the CU sends in results in the same thing: the date reported changes and there is no changes to the payment history profile. I hate to be picky here, but it is all about accuracy. I didn't get where I am by settling for anything less than expected performance from CRAs and/or DFs. Learned that lesson the hard way and won't make the same mistakes twice. That one month difference in age can, at some point, mean the difference in scoring due to age (or even historical payment data - who really knows).

It just makes no sense that this missing month cannot be added back on. If anyone has had a similar incident, irrespective of the resolution, I'm all ears. I've seen the AUD that the CU has sent to TU and there are 19 0's followed by a B (paid as agreeds or "OKs" for each month - the "B" is no rating since that is February, account wasn't opened yet). They've done everything right IMO but there just isn't any rhyme or reason there isn't resolution.

Last thought: CU asked if I should try disputing it from TU's side so they have to manually send back the corrections. There is no category that fits "Missing First Month's payment rating only" (looking st FAQs since I don't want to mess-up dispute access!) and I suppose "Other" will work with 50 characters. Then again, the whole tradeline could vanish like it did 3 months ago when the CU had me try the dispute route.

Thanks in advance and if you need any clarifications, just ask away as I'm not even sure I'm explaining this well. Again I apologize and appreciate everything in advance!
Take care Smiley Happy
BCE: 22.5K; BC-REW: 15K; QSSIG: 15K; CITI: 6K; FREE: 15.5K; DISC-IT: 17K; FCU: 20K; FCU-HELOC: 7.3/45K; AMZ-MC: 6.5K; KAY: 7.4K, LOWES VISA: 22K. FICOS: EX: 829; TU: 812, EQ: 822- 21 OCT 15. (NEVER TO FORGET PRE-MF: 635, 629, & 630 in Oct 2012)
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RobertEG
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Re: First Month Payment Rating/Status

Field 17B records the reported payment rating for the month of the reporting.  It is not a historical rating, and reflects only the (current) month of the reporting.

In the next monthly reporting, the creditor reports the Payment History Proflie under Field 18, which is a sequential listing of up to 24 codes.  Last month's Field 17B rating slides one place to the left, and a new 17B entry is added to reflect the (current) month of the reporting.

 

If a prior month lacks specific reporting, then when the Payment History Profile is updated, its monthly place contains a D entry to show not reporting exits for that month.

The first month in the Payment History Profile string of codes will contain a B, indicating that no payment history is available prior to that month.

 

A B placeholder code can thus be used as the first reported code in the Payment History without need that it be the first month the account is open.

An accountm, for example, that is opened in May and not reported until August will contain a B as the first entry prior to August, without any regard to any months from May - July.

 

As for scoring relevance, the PaymentHistory Profile is used to record the date of occurence or lates, and thus permit scoring as it ages.

Omission of a first few months would be immaterial to any scoring of the derogs, and thus the "no history available prior to this date" code B fills the "voids."

Age of the account is scored based on Open date, and thus is not affected.

Scoring of impact of delinquencies is based on their severity and age, both of which are scored in the Payment History Proflile and unaffected by first few month voids, so I do not see any relevance to the issue of whether complete history is reflected for every single month.  Creditors are NOT required to update each month, so "no payment history avaiable" either for that month or prior to that month are provided their own codes to fill in the Payment History Profile code.

 

I am at a bit of a loss to see the substantive scoring issue.....

 

 

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