cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 

Hard Inquiry Dispute

tag
tufa4311
Established Contributor

Hard Inquiry Dispute

Recently I have had a identitiy thefy issue - I have, and am continuing, to go through all the processes that I should (freezing accounts, fling police report, attaching fraud alerts, cacelling all cards and getting new ones sent out, etc). One of the issues was someone attempted to apply for a Nordstrom credit card in my name and thus I have a hard inquiry on my report. After filing a dispute with EQ the dispute was refused based on:

 

We have reviewed the inquiry information for Nordstrom/TD Bank USA. The results are:
Inquiries are a factual record of file access. If you believe this was unauthorized, please contact the creditor. If you have additionalquestions about this item please contact: Nordstrom/TD Bank USA, 13531 E Caley Ave, Englewood, CO80111−6504

 

Why was it refused? Under what circumstatses does EQ remove a hard inquiry?

796 TU FICO 08 (08/2018)
758 TU FICO 08 (01/12/2016)
753 TU FICO 08 (11/21/2015)
740: EQ Score Power (Beacon 5.0) FICO 04 (01/23/2015)
755 TU FICO 08 (01/21/2015)
652 TU Lender Pull (06/10/2014)
665 TU FICO 08 (05/21/2014)
Goal: 800+
Message 1 of 22
21 REPLIES 21
tufa4311
Established Contributor

Re: Hard Inquiry Dispute

Well, I decided to call the number that CreditKarma listed as Nordstrom/TD Bank US and amazingly someone picked up at 9:30pm EST and was actually able to locate the credit application made in my name, apologized for it happening, and is sending out delete's of all those inquiries so it's fixed.

796 TU FICO 08 (08/2018)
758 TU FICO 08 (01/12/2016)
753 TU FICO 08 (11/21/2015)
740: EQ Score Power (Beacon 5.0) FICO 04 (01/23/2015)
755 TU FICO 08 (01/21/2015)
652 TU Lender Pull (06/10/2014)
665 TU FICO 08 (05/21/2014)
Goal: 800+
Message 2 of 22
EW800
Valued Contributor

Re: Hard Inquiry Dispute


@tufa4311 wrote:

Well, I decided to call the number that CreditKarma listed as Nordstrom/TD Bank US and amazingly someone picked up at 9:30pm EST and was actually able to locate the credit application made in my name, apologized for it happening, and is sending out delete's of all those inquiries so it's fixed.


Outstanding.  Congratulations!  Smiley Happy

 

Year 2012: All Scores in the 520 range, during a foreclosure, CC Settlement and high UTIL. Very ugly days...
Sept 2024: EX8: 847; EQ8: 850; TU8: 848 -- Middle Mortgage Score: 821
In My Wallet: Discover $73.7K; Cap1 Venture $51.7K; Amex ED $38K; Amex Optima $2.5K; Amex Delta Gold $18K; Citi Costco $24.5K; Cap1 Plat $8.4K; Barclay $7K; Chase Amazon $6K; BoA Plat $21.6K; Citi TY Pref $22K; US Bank $4K; Dell $5K; Care Credit $6.5K. Total Revolving CL: $300K+
My UTIL: Less than 1% - Only allow about $20 a month to report, on one account. .
Message 3 of 22
RobertEG
Legendary Contributor

Re: Hard Inquiry Dispute

I am glad that the issue was resolved.

 

For future reference, the dispute process is not the way to go.

The identity theft process set forth in FCRA 605B requires block of information related to identity theft from a consumer's credti report without any consideration of factual proofs by anyone, or consideration of whether an inquiry is a factual record.

 

FCRA states, in section 605B, that "a consumer reporting agency shall block the reporting of any information in the file of a consumer that the consumer identifies as information that resulted from an alleged identity theft, not later than 4 business days after the date of receipt by such agency.."

A record of inquiry is clearly information in the file of the consumer that is being reported by the CRA.

Message 4 of 22
tufa4311
Established Contributor

Re: Hard Inquiry Dispute


@RobertEG wrote:

I am glad that the issue was resolved.

 

For future reference, the dispute process is not the way to go.

The identity theft process set forth in FCRA 605B requires block of information related to identity theft from a consumer's credti report without any consideration of factual proofs by anyone, or consideration of whether an inquiry is a factual record.

 

FCRA states, in section 605B, that "a consumer reporting agency shall block the reporting of any information in the file of a consumer that the consumer identifies as information that resulted from an alleged identity theft, not later than 4 business days after the date of receipt by such agency.."

A record of inquiry is clearly information in the file of the consumer that is being reported by the CRA.


So if I understand FCRA - EQ should have removed the inquiry. Why did they not?

796 TU FICO 08 (08/2018)
758 TU FICO 08 (01/12/2016)
753 TU FICO 08 (11/21/2015)
740: EQ Score Power (Beacon 5.0) FICO 04 (01/23/2015)
755 TU FICO 08 (01/21/2015)
652 TU Lender Pull (06/10/2014)
665 TU FICO 08 (05/21/2014)
Goal: 800+
Message 5 of 22
RobertEG
Legendary Contributor

Re: Hard Inquiry Dispute

Because they treated it as a dispute, not as an identity theft blocking issue.

The dispute process involves a CRA determination of whether the information is accurate.  When a credit inquiry hits their desk, they presume that the statement of permissible purpose provided by the inquiree is accurate/honest, and they send out the credit report.  They cannot put the toothpaste back in the tube once they send out a credit report, so they vehemently consider the matter closed, and stand by the "factual" nature of the stated permissible purpose.  The consumer is left with no appeal of the CRA holding of verification.

 

The identity theft process was implemented by congress to avoid any and all issues of factual proofs PROVIDED the consumer is willing to place him or herself under possible criminal prosecution by filing of a false police report.  Once the consumer puts their assertion into a sworn statement before a law enforcement agency, then the CRA is required to block the information from any future credit reports they issue.  There is no "resolution" of any factual issues regarding the accuracy of the inquiry.  The consumer gets repireve of blocking of the information from their credit report with no consideration of the factual accuracy of the information.

Message 6 of 22
tufa4311
Established Contributor

Re: Hard Inquiry Dispute


@RobertEG wrote:

Because they treated it as a dispute, not as an identity theft blocking issue.

The dispute process involves a CRA determination of whether the information is accurate.  When a credit inquiry hits their desk, they presume that the statement of permissible purpose provided by the inquiree is accurate/honest, and they send out the credit report.  They cannot put the toothpaste back in the tube once they send out a credit report, so they vehemently consider the matter closed, and stand by the "factual" nature of the stated permissible purpose.  The consumer is left with no appeal of the CRA holding of verification.


Ok, then what is the point of filing a dispute, outside of an identity theft case, if the CRA presumes that all inquiries have permissable purpose?

796 TU FICO 08 (08/2018)
758 TU FICO 08 (01/12/2016)
753 TU FICO 08 (11/21/2015)
740: EQ Score Power (Beacon 5.0) FICO 04 (01/23/2015)
755 TU FICO 08 (01/21/2015)
652 TU Lender Pull (06/10/2014)
665 TU FICO 08 (05/21/2014)
Goal: 800+
Message 7 of 22
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Hard Inquiry Dispute

Should consider to call all 3B and have them freeze it so if anyone try to open any new card with ur name they can't 

Message 8 of 22
tufa4311
Established Contributor

Re: Hard Inquiry Dispute


@Anonymous wrote:

Should consider to call all 3B and have them freeze it so if anyone try to open any new card with ur name they can't 


already done

796 TU FICO 08 (08/2018)
758 TU FICO 08 (01/12/2016)
753 TU FICO 08 (11/21/2015)
740: EQ Score Power (Beacon 5.0) FICO 04 (01/23/2015)
755 TU FICO 08 (01/21/2015)
652 TU Lender Pull (06/10/2014)
665 TU FICO 08 (05/21/2014)
Goal: 800+
Message 9 of 22
takeshi74
Senior Contributor

Re: Hard Inquiry Dispute


@tufa4311 wrote:

Ok, then what is the point of filing a dispute, outside of an identity theft case, if the CRA presumes that all inquiries have permissable purpose?

 


Identity theft is not the only possible cause of incorrect information on a credit report.  You can certainly disagree with the system about the point but it's more productive to use the proper process.

Message 10 of 22
Advertiser Disclosure: The offers that appear on this site are from third party advertisers from whom FICO receives compensation.