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How do I play the 1-9% Utilization Game. Please Help

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Re: How do I play the 1-9% Utilization Game. Please Help

Does anyone know what day capital one reports utilization?

 

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JMills
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Re: How do I play the 1-9% Utilization Game. Please Help

For me it is the 13th, but it varies depending when you open your vard, usually when they send an email about your statement, they usually are getting ready to report, sometimes its the next day or week. So be on the look for that email they usually send every month and then see  when they report on your reports

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Re: How do I play the 1-9% Utilization Game. Please Help


@Themanwhocan wrote:

First you should realize that there are 2 groups that you are trying to impress, and they are to some extent complete opposites.

 

You want to impress the credit card companies. You want to show them that you have credit cards, that you are using them, and that you are paying them off regularily (ideally every month). These companies will decide if they want to loan you more of their money, and they are concerned with risk, and return on investments, etc. So usually for these companies you want to have your monthly charges report to the credit bureaus, then pay in full before you are charged any interest. And don't use too much of any one card, ie, don't rack the card up close to 100%, that can be interpreted as you are finding it difficult to meet your expenses, etc. Appearing desperate is never good.

 

The second group you want to impress is FICO. They generate a credit score. They don't loan you money, they don't care about your credit history. All they care about is the present moment, the current snap-shot of your credit risk. They will sum up your entire credit worthiness in the form of a number. And only a number.

 

So, when you want to 'play the game', remember that you are not just a number (except to FICO, and they don't give you a loan or a credit card, now do they?).

 

Most of the time, just use your card a reasonable amount, let it report, and immediately pay in full. Create that rich, robust credit report that the credit companies want to see. Sure they look at that Fico number, but thats not all they look at, so give them what they want.

 

As to the FICO score, why its always fluxuating a bit, so why not try to optimize it right before you apply for more credit. At that time, and only that time, try to get one credit card to report 1% - 9% and the rest of them report 0%. You have to figure out what date each card reports to the credit bureaus and pay off each cards just before that. For some credit cards that will be approximately the date that the new statements are created. For others it will be a different date (example: US Bank and ELAN cards report your balance near the last day of the month).

 

Its really as simple as that.

 


This thread ranks right up there with the Amex 3x CLI Guide, in my opinion. Great info that I wouldn't have otherwise known. Thank you

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masscredit
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Re: How do I play the 1-9% Utilization Game. Please Help


@Anonymous wrote:

Does anyone know what day capital one reports utilization?

 


For me it's a few days after the statement closes.

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Chaselover
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Re: How do I play the 1-9% Utilization Game. Please Help


@SuperKirby wrote:

@navyox wrote:

@Themanwhocan wrote:

First you should realize that there are 2 groups that you are trying to impress, and they are to some extent complete opposites.

 

You want to impress the credit card companies. You want to show them that you have credit cards, that you are using them, and that you are paying them off regularily (ideally every month). These companies will decide if they want to loan you more of their money, and they are concerned with risk, and return on investments, etc. So usually for these companies you want to have your monthly charges report to the credit bureaus, then pay in full before you are charged any interest. And don't use too much of any one card, ie, don't rack the card up close to 100%, that can be interpreted as you are finding it difficult to meet your expenses, etc. Appearing desperate is never good.

 

The second group you want to impress is FICO. They generate a credit score. They don't loan you money, they don't care about your credit history. All they care about is the present moment, the current snap-shot of your credit risk. They will sum up your entire credit worthiness in the form of a number. And only a number.

 

So, when you want to 'play the game', remember that you are not just a number (except to FICO, and they don't give you a loan or a credit card, now do they?).

 

Most of the time, just use your card a reasonable amount, let it report, and immediately pay in full. Create that rich, robust credit report that the credit companies want to see. Sure they look at that Fico number, but thats not all they look at, so give them what they want.

 

As to the FICO score, why its always fluxuating a bit, so why not try to optimize it right before you apply for more credit. At that time, and only that time, try to get one credit card to report 1% - 9% and the rest of them report 0%. You have to figure out what date each card reports to the credit bureaus and pay off each cards just before that. For some credit cards that will be approximately the date that the new statements are created. For others it will be a different date (example: US Bank and ELAN cards report your balance near the last day of the month).

 

Its really as simple as that.

 


In a forum full of great information, this post is amazing.   Super clear and concise and really explains a concept that many people could benefit from understanding.  +100!


+101!


+102 Very accurate information, thats exactly what you should read. 

Thanks for that. 


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CreditGuy03
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Re: How do I play the 1-9% Utilization Game. Please Help

Be careful playing the game with CAP 1. 

 

They charge all interest and fees AFTER the statement closes which means the interest and fees are reported to the bureaus. I had my card at a zero balance and then when the new statement cut it said I owed 112 bux. 

 

I hate that with these guys. 

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mitchblue
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Re: How do I play the 1-9% Utilization Game. Please Help

Still confusing to me. On my Amex card it says "15 days after the statement closing date." So if it pays 15 days after, it gets reported? What if I pay before the statement closing date? Ad if you want 1-9 on one card when should that be paid..so hard to figure it out. Thanks for any help..

 

Btw, even if i try to change the date, on autopay, I only have the choice of 15 days after through 25 days after. Should I pay manually before statement close to have it not to get reported?

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Themanwhocan
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Re: How do I play the 1-9% Utilization Game. Please Help

The amount you owe when your monthly statement is generated, is the amount that wil be on your statement, and is the amount that is reported to the credit bureaus (except US Bank and Elan cards). 

 

If you want to manipulate the amount reported, you have to stop using the cards days before teh statement is generated (so that any pending charges have a chance to post, so that you can pay them). then once everything has posted, you pay whatever amount you want before the statement date and soon enough before that date for your payment to clear.

 

You want a card to report 0 amount due? Pay the full bill a couple days before the statement. You want a small amount to report? Pay all except a small amount before the statement date.





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DaveInAZ
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Re: How do I play the 1-9% Utilization Game. Please Help

OK, I'm going to give this a try, my credit score has been hovering right around 700 since last summer. I have 4 Visa/MC cards and 2 store cards and have pretty much been using them all, letting them report the statement balance and then paying them in full before the due date. I've paid a Visa and Walmart card in full before the due date so they will report a $0 balance early this month and see if it bumps me a little. The other store card is Target Red Card and I almost never use it. In fact they lowered the CL from $1000 to only $200 because I didn't use it the first 8 months of this year. So I think it's best to rotate the cards you let report with $0 balance.

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takeshi74
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Re: How do I play the 1-9% Utilization Game. Please Help


@masscredit wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Does anyone know what day capital one reports utilization?

 


For me it's a few days after the statement closes.


You and some others in this thread are confusing update date with report date.  Creditors that report at statement end report on statement date. However, it can take CRA's several business days to update.  Balances are not updated on your reports in real time.

 


@CreditGuy03 wrote:

Be careful playing the game with CAP 1. 

 

They charge all interest and fees AFTER the statement closes which means the interest and fees are reported to the bureaus. I had my card at a zero balance and then when the new statement cut it said I owed 112 bux. 


All creditors add intest at the end of the cycle.  If you want to avoid having interest impact your repotred balance then you need to ensure that you're not subject to interest.  If you carried a balance it can take a couple of cycles to pay off the residual interest.  Make sure you understand how your grace period works and when it is applicable and when it is not.

 


@DaveInAZ wrote:

So I think it's best to rotate the cards you let report with $0 balance.


Best is highly subjective just as it is on any topic and it's for each to determine.  I don't bother with this as I'm fine with my scores even with balances reporting on pretty much all 12 of them.  I think 2 happen to be at 0 this month.

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