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Just Establishing Credit... Newbie Questions..

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zoomsaber
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Just Establishing Credit... Newbie Questions..

   Hello everyone, i'm 20years old. Just establishing credit. I searched for this info but no luck. So i'm hoping I can get some assistance from you all.
 
 
  I recently got a secured card with a $200 limit. (Started reporting dec 1st 07) II've been using the freecreditreport site (experian) After I made my first payment on the card, all of a sudden I had a score on experian. (first score i've ever received from any agency) The score is 726. Why do I have a score with experian but no one else? (orchard bank reports to every agency supposedly) And how long till I get scores with the others?
 
I'm hoping to get a auto loan soon... So any help would be very usefull.
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llecs
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Re: Just Establishing Credit... Newbie Questions..

Welcome to these forums!
 
There is only one true score and that is your FICO score. Others like TrueCredit, or those offered by EX, for example, are called FAKO scores. The formulas are different and the score range can be different giving a false sense of security.
 
You should order your reports and scores from all 3 CRAs here on MyFICO. If you can't get a score from TU and EQ, then it could be due to Orchard not reporting yet. I do have the same card and it took 2 months for them to first start reporting. And yes, they report to all 3. You can also order all 3 reports for free via annualcreditreport.com once a year. Don't pay for the scores, but you can see if Orchard has reported yet.
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Anonymous
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Re: Just Establishing Credit... Newbie Questions..

I suspect that the number you saw is not a fico score, but a "vantagescore", which is a model that experian uses. 720 translates to a Fico of 620-699/decent. AFAIK, it takes a minimum of 6 months reporting to calculate a fico score. I'm just learning about all this myself, so maybe a Sr member can chime in...
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Anonymous
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6 months minimum. Scores can be bought from MyFICO.com and Equifax.com only that I know of. Don't waste your money if you had less than 6 months of reporting credit. You most likely won't have a score. There are many credit places to pull your scores daily like NationalCity.com credit monitoring or TrueCredit.com.

Here is a good link to daily monitoring services,
http://ficoforums.myfico.com/fico/board/message?board.id=ficoscoring&message.id=5457#M5457
I use 3 different monitoring services. lol. ScoreWatch for score updates and IdentityProtect / TC for daily changes.

My best advice I would give you is Apply Apply Apply. Your score will drop for the first year with applying, but since your average age is basically 0 this will give you the biggest boost after 12 months. Don't expect things to happen fast. You need history and history is slow.

The secured card is good. Try and get a Discover, Amex, Bank of America 99/500 or unsecured, Cap1 unsecured or Citi. Sometimes they issue unsecured to students or young people. Try and get no fee credit cards as soon as possible and keep them forever. 3 will do fine to start. Keep balances very low and pif.

1 loan couldn't hurt either, but don't pay it off right away. History is what you want.

Your scores will be around 680 probably. It's going to take a while. Never be late! Pay 2 weeks early but not too early. With out a bunch of accounts you pretty much get the usual starter score. The game gets exciting after 12 and 24 months from when you started your credit file. That's when you see the results of all your hard work. You can get a big jump start right now. If only I knew then what I know now my score would be probably 20 points higher.

The advantage you have now is age. You can add accounts with out lowering your average age. In a few years this will be the opposite, new accounts will lower your age. Can't get lower than 0. Might as well go with it now. Smiley Happy Don't take on responsibility you might not be able to handle. It will stay on your CR for 7 years if you are 31 days late on a credit account.

So go at your own pace, but if you can get a minimum of 3 credit cards in my opinion will help you more. Smiley Happy

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Use the card only 2 times.......1 the first month & then PIF when it appears on a statment. Use it a secont time    after it was PIF..... PIF  again....you can just use it for  a few bucks If you charge a lot on it it will show high UTIL which will lower scores.    After second PIF   sock drawer it........do not use again!!!
 
In 3-6 months apply for auto.......keep in mind that the scores that they use is FICO plus some other formula that we can only guess at.....but they also want income/ratio   and how long you have been at presant job.
 
This card is not concidered new after 6 months.
 
I would not apply for another card UNTIL you get an auto loan.   Then wait 3 months & apply.
 
Always pay at myfico and get FICO scores before applying for an auto loan or any large purchase. Other then that save your money.
 
Never be late for any payment on anything. 1 late payment can tank your scores big time.


Message Edited by HappyDays on 01-24-2008 12:21 AM
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Re: Just Establishing Credit... Newbie Questions..

Sry,Not trying to hijack OP's thread, but I now realize that I may have posted in the wrong section. Would you all mind taking a look and chiming in on my post, "No Credit History / Score...What do think of this Plan??" located here:
http://ficoforums.myfico.com/fico/board/message?board.id=ficoscoring&message.id=14368&jump=true

Thanks!

EDIT: Mods have moved my post to this "General" forum
http://ficoforums.myfico.com/fico/board/message?message.uid=138894#U138894

Message Edited by Stylin on 01-24-2008 03:29 PM
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zoomsaber
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Re: Just Establishing Credit... Newbie Questions..

Hey, thanks for the advice. But if I put the card away, will that not show inactivity with the card... Lowering my score? I really want to do everything right with my credit. My folks have had terrible problems with theirs. And I dont wish to go thru that delimma.
 
  I have a very steady paying job so I shouldnt have to worry about missing any payments. But any advice that helps me build my credit is very appreciated!


Message Edited by zoomsaber on 01-24-2008 06:47 PM
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Some banks report activity used or not used.
Not using it will not hurt your score. Just may not help your score as much.
Job or no job, it's remembering to pay the bill on time that counts. Smiley Happy

You will need 3 cards, 1 is ok, 3 is better, 2 is not so great. lol Odd I know.
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hey, be careful with orchard bank. i have the gold card. over a year now. no missed payments, never late, never went over the cl. started at 300. now at 400. and i had to pay 25.00, to get the 100.00. orchard bank sucks. why would you want to open a card you will never use. just because your young, dont mean you have to have crappy credit cards. also, orchard is tricky, if i remember right the frist 3 months, when you make a payment, it would show that you made the payment, but you couldnt use that money for like 30 days. every time i had to call them, they were in china.lol..you are young, i would close that orchard card..now.. why have it? i was in the same boat you are in about a 2 years ago. 1-15-07 hd, (citi) cl 1500. still at 1500.,,,6-15-06 boa secured, 300cl, now 2000.00....1-1-07 capital one cl 300, now 1500.00..2-2-07 orchard bank, cl 300, now cl 400. thats all i have for cc. i have no other loans. i pay all cc before the ( closing date) closing date is the most important thing on a cc. not the arp. i dont care if my arp is 1000%, because i dont carry a balance. not all cc will tell you what your closing date is. you can find out though. i pay my bills online, if you cant pay your bills on time, (online) you shouldnt have credit. close that orchard card, lol, the card had a cl 300. i was making over 500.00 payments every month before the closing date, lol and still no cli. orchard is a joke
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