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Notice regarding changes to your account

I've received letters from my banking institutions that I have credit cards with and other unsecured debt. My rates will go up on November 30th 2009 to a purchase margin added to the prime rate. Now if I don't agree with this increase I can contact the banks about this,they will not apply the increase but will close my account and I keep making payments as if it were a loan. My question is how does this affect my FICO score? The banks are closing my accounts,that probably goes against me,but I'm also paying down and off the amount owed. This is my first post so I send out in advance apologizes if this is a redundant question. Thank you.
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DI
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Re: Notice regarding changes to your account

Welcome to the forum.. You never want to close an account with a balance.  Even when the accounts are closed, they still will appear on your credit reports for up to 10 years, and factored in your AAoA.  The best thing to do is continue to pay those account down as quickly as possible. 
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Carefully consider whether the closure of the account to freeze the APR is worth it. If so go ahead and do it. I have had a closed card with a balance reporting on my CBR's without problem for many years. Closing the account will not effect your FICO score and may effect you wallet. You have to do what is right financially.
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Anonymous
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"You never want to close an account with a balance."  is a poor to dangerous response!  The word "never" does NOT belong in this sentence!  I would agree that an individual should evaluate their options and consider the consequences of their actions prior to deciding to close an account with a balance.  There are times that closing an account and paying off the balance at the current interest rate is the best solution, regardless of the impact on the credit scores.

 

I have had both Bank of America and Chase send notices wanting to increase the interest rate to more than double the original interest rate on my accounts with balances greater than $25,000.  These are accounts in good standing, no late or missed payments.  Do the math.  I closed the accounts, and will continue to close accounts when banks use tactics like this to "cover their increasing costs". 

 

Citibank has sent notices of dramatically increased APR's to all credit card holders with several college campus issued credit card programs.  This was done without reviewing individual credit reports or scores.  If these recent college grads (including my daughters) have small balances, pay the cards off quickly and stop using the cards.  If the balances are greater than what they can pay off in a couple of months, consider closing the account according to the opt-out instructions. 

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I don't agree with "creditwherecreditisdue" on the statement "Closing the account will not effect your FICO score".

 

When you have a credit card with a balance (I assume your card has a credit limit) and then you close it, you need to consider your ratio/percentage of ultilization (your actual dept vs your credit limit; this apply to your over all credit as well as individual card. Idealy, you want your ultilization ratio to be 10% or less per card and also over all, because the higher your ratio = the more it hurt your FICO. 

 

It would be best to payoff your dept asap (using your own pocket money, or a personal loan) to avoid the extra interest but then still maintain the card (without using it - occasionally you can charge $5-$10 to it and then pay off right away - to keep the account active), that way you will maintain your good ultilization ratio. 

 

You should check the forum for other thread regarding "ultilization" ratio.

 

Good luck 

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Anonymous
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I had a similar situation with 2 accounts at Chase at 15.99% (that were formerly Washington Mutual).  They provided the same option, then when I kept the accounts open they raised the rates to 29.99% THEN THEY turned around and closed both of them at the 29.99% .

===========BEWARE===========

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credit99
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Hi WA - That EXACT scenario was done to me by Chase as well.  It was heartbreaking as my min payment was close to $600.  So I was late a couple of months ago (about 15 days not 30).  I then called and asked to speak to the Hardship department.  They then transferred me to regular Customer Service in India where they proceeded to tell me that a hardship department did not exist but I knew better and persisted.  I then got transferred back to the US and spoke to a very nice person in that department.  I explained my income had decreased and I could no longer pay. They asked me what I could pay and I sad around $300 and then they asked me some simple income figures, whether or not this was going to be long term of which I said "Yes" to and in the end I now have to pay only 2% interest (NOT 29.99) and it will be paid off in 5 years.  My account had already been closed so I had nothing to lose. 
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Anonymous
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I find it insane that ALL the banks and cards are 1st reducing the limits to the current balance (thereby making the cards all "maxed out") then forcing the consumer to EITHER opt-out (Then closing the account and hurting your credit considerably worse) OR pay down the balance at 29.99%, which is complete ROBBERY.

 

Why is it, that my score is now going to fall from 750 to below 700, simply because I don't want to digest 29.99% consumer theft ?? Why are so many FICO threads all calm and OK with this, (MANY posts I have read are saying, oh - just pay them down faster...)  Hmm - That does NOT make this Ok or "right".  Many folks have (had) Excellent credit.  This automatically slashes scores and forces folks into appearing as though they have not managed their credit appropriately - or worse, ran up all their cards then closed the accounts like a deadbeat.

 

I do not understand why so many posts on the FICO site, seem to think this is Ok.  It's not - this is thievery - I am aware of the new banking legislation that caused all this - and that does not make this fair, appropriate nor an ethical business practice against the very tax payers that funded these very same bank bail-outs.  There is something seriously wrong that people are not writing their repsresentatives in Washington and that NOBODY is protecting the consumers at a time like this.  I have never seen so many scores negatively affected by actions they had nothing to do with.

 

For those that post comments about how they maintain no more than 10% utilization on their cards, and simply paid the full balance - I applaud you. But, many, many other folks do not have that superior cash flow.

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@Anonymous wrote:

I don't agree with "creditwherecreditisdue" on the statement "Closing the account will not effect your FICO score".

 

When you have a credit card with a balance (I assume your card has a credit limit) and then you close it, you need to consider your ratio/percentage of ultilization (your actual dept vs your credit limit; this apply to your over all credit as well as individual card. Idealy, you want your ultilization ratio to be 10% or less per card and also over all, because the higher your ratio = the more it hurt your FICO. 

 

It would be best to payoff your dept asap (using your own pocket money, or a personal loan) to avoid the extra interest but then still maintain the card (without using it - occasionally you can charge $5-$10 to it and then pay off right away - to keep the account active), that way you will maintain your good ultilization ratio. 

 

You should check the forum for other thread regarding "ultilization" ratio.

 

Good luck 


My other posts on the matter of UTIL % clearly state that the CL on closed accounts is included in the UTIL equation until the balance reaches zero. There is NO DAMAGE sustained when closing an account with a balance as opposed to closing an account without a balance.

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Anonymous
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They're all doomed anyway. Revolt. Max everything and walk away from the debt. NOBODY can pay these rates for long and they've gone too far. Believe it. It was either max the cards or lose the credit. That was when I had a score of 790 and had @ 70% available and got under a 10% average. Then (?) they started reducing the available credit AND reporting it as high balance to limit, which led to more reductions which has now led to a score of 675 and Rate jacks and maxed out limits before they ALL took it. NONE would negotiate anything. At 4 to 5 times my current min. monthly's it will NEVER be paid off at their (11 accounts $200of215k) average rates of 21%. And I'm probably lucky to have that. Just wait until the Fed. finally breaks. They (the Fed, FannieMae, & FreddieMac) started this House of Cards long ago and now we will all will suffer the Domino effect for it. It's all smoke and mirrors until then... 

 

They're taking their risk out on us when we don't deserve it. Responsibility? I was responsible and still am (for awhile) - how about THEM?  This is THEIR credit crunch -not mine.

 

If you are experiencing this same type situation find out what never really means here:

 

http://cgi.money.cnn.com/tools/debtplanner/debtplanner.jsp

 

I'm not even looking for suggestions anymore folks. It's Reality. Max it all, get out of the market, buy gold and enough food to survive on for 6-12 months...

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