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@Anonymous wrote:Using a debit card instead of a credit card generally is not a good idea... in my opinion and experience. Debit cards have no guarantee against loss due to theft (unauthorized use). They are not usually backed by the banks as credit cards are. For example your maximum loss on theft with a credit card might be $50 and in many cases... $0 if you report it right away. Debit cards open access and potential theft of funds from your checking and savings accounts. The MasterCard and Visa logos pretty much mean nothing except that any place accepting MasterCard and Visa will accept your debit card.
I have had two Discover Cards (stolen identity) rack up more than $6,000. Didn't cost me a dime.. Pain in the butt... but more important... did not cost me anything.
So why would you put yourself at more risk for loss by using a debit card? Even more important... why would you do it with frequency.. daily, weekly, etc.? If you screw up you might lose all your funds... then probably have to open a new account or go to a new bank. Banks aren't going to write off your loss...
I discipline myself to pay the credit card charge a.s.a.p. through online banking (no fee for this)... so I do it within a day or two after the charge. I steer clear of using my debit card as much as I can...
Debit cards are used way too frequently and without regard for potential consequences. It pretty much comes down to either developing bad habits or taking charge to manage your funds.
Message Edited by Maniac on 07-28-2009 05:42 PM
I have to disagree with you. I have had unauthorized charges on my debit card and the bank bent over backwards to fix it. It was also a significant amount of money that was taken.
As soon as I noticed it I called the bank and within an hour the money was back in my account, I did not get charged fees and they filed a fraud investigation.
If your bank is worth anything, they will do every thing possible to get your money back.
I use my debit card for everything. Not too often do I have cash on me.
Using money out of your bank account, whether by debit card or not, takes discipline not to overspend, just like not overspending using a credit card. They both have negative consequences.
I have had unauthorized charges on a credit card that I am still fighting.
There are pros and cons to both.
Carmen Wong Urich from On The Money states debit cards from the bank are risky to use. I don't use my debit/credit card from the bank becuase it has been proven the retailer you are purchasing the the item can actually take more than what you paid for, Beware
Watch On the Money. It is a great show.
It can happen with credit cards also.
jrar629 wrote:
The difference with credit and debit card purchases is that you are protected by the credit card. You are not always protected by your financial institution.
I have had fraudulent activity on both a debit and a credit card. It was much easier to get the money back for the debit card than for the credit card.
tira
What would you suggest I do about store cards? I have one that I use maybe once a year.
usually 18 months of in-activity means they will close it (store card) but credit sector is changing rapidly they might reduce the duration but for now i think once a year is good.
for regular mc/visa/amex they dont close them so easily unless there are changes in your credit report or if they are in trouble.
using more than 6 credit cards at the same time hurts your score.
you can keep more than 6 cards without hurting your credit as far as they are 0 balance.
debit card dosent help build or hurt credit. it is like writing a check.
debit card vs credit card is like red pill vs blue pill.
both have benifits and draw backs.
It's important to be accurate about the law here. Once upon a time, there was much greater liability with a debit card, but under federal law, as a practical matter, there is no longer, if you take timely action, much as with credit cards. Here is a quote from a discussion of the issue on the American Bar Association website (and yes, I am a lawyer, but not in this field.):
"...if you are the victim of debit card fraud, your bank will protect you. The Electronic Funds Transfer Act (EFTA) protects consumers from losses due to debit card fraud artists if you report fraud in a timely fashion. Visa and MasterCard have taken the protection a step further for all debit cards that bear their logos, by instituting a zero liability policy. This policy states consumers will not have to pay for any purchases made fraudulently using Visa and MasterCard debit cards, regardless of the time it takes to report the incident."
First, you have the protection of the EFTA, which is retroactive if you timely report the loss, and then as a practical matter, most cards now have a VISA or MC logo. For those that do not, the issuing bank may well have a position offering protection from liability for fraudulent transactions. You can check with your bank.
For anyone who is really interested, here is the FTC's statement about debit card liability under EFTA, which addresses what is timely reporting. You are really pretty well covered, even apart from the VISA or MC protection.
"ATM or Debit Card Loss or Fraudulent Transfers (EFTA). Your liability under federal law for unauthorized use of your ATM or debit card depends on how quickly you report the loss. If you report an ATM or debit card missing before it's used without your permission, the EFTA says the card issuer cannot hold you responsible for any unauthorized transfers. If unauthorized use occurs before you report it, your liability under federal law depends on how quickly you report the loss.
For example, if you report the loss within two business days after you realize your card is missing, you will not be responsible for more than $50 for unauthorized use. However, if you don't report the loss within two business days after you discover the loss, you could lose up to $500 because of an unauthorized transfer. You also risk unlimited loss if you fail to report an unauthorized transfer within 60 days after your bank statement containing unauthorized use is mailed to you. That means you could lose all the money in your bank account and the unused portion of your line of credit established for overdrafts. However, for unauthorized transfers involving only your debit card number (not the loss of the card), you are liable only for transfers that occur after 60 days following the mailing of your bank statement containing the unauthorized use and before you report the loss.
If unauthorized transfers show up on your bank statement, report them to the card issuer as quickly as possible. Once you've reported the loss of your ATM or debit card, you cannot be held liable for additional unauthorized transfers that occur after that time."
So to sum it up....if you don't have a VISA or MC debit card (which have 0 fraud liability), you're only liable for $50 if you lose your card and call it in within 2 days after you realize you lost it. If someone steals your card number (and possibly your PIN) and uses it, you're only liable for transfers that occur after 60 days following the mailing of the bank statement showing the use and before you report the situation. So if you get a statement showing fraudulent activity and you call in within 60 days, you have no liability. Doesn't sound so bad to me.
Anyway, I don't lose sleep carrying and occasionally using my VISA debit card, that gives rewards just like my favorite CC.
A little research can bring some peace of mind.
Trulyb
@Anonymous wrote:
The best way to get your financial matters in order is to sit down. Look at them. Write them down and tackle one at a time. If you are having problems paying off your credit cards then cut them up so you don't use them. As you pay them down ask the credit card company to lower your limits, So this way whenever you do get a new card you will not have that much credit to be used.
I would question whether or not it's a good idea to reduce your credit limits. If you do that, then your utilization still looks bad, and just gets worse as you do it. For example, if you had a credit limit of $1000, and you paid your debt down to $450, your utilization is less than 50%, but if you reduce your credit limit to $500, your utilization is 90%. It looks much worse fon your credit score, especially if you do this on more than one CC.
You should just exercise some will power not to spend back up, but leave that available credit to make your utilization rate good, for FICO purposes. IMHO, and it really is humble since I'm a newbie here. You want to have some available but unused credit, I think?
Trulyb