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Why having more cc's is better than not

Hi all... I've been lurking here for quite some time trying to figure out how to improve my credit score. My identity was stolen and after I froze my credit file and let my cc's go, the police suggested I use cash or checks for a while. That turned out to be great advice because I had a target on my back. It was inconvenient, but it saved me from total destruction. After the dust settled, I thought it was time to get back into the cc world. With a limited cc history and a score in the 500's, I've now aquired 6 cc's with credit scores ranging from 756 to 787. 2 Amex, 2 Cap 1, Discover & Chase Amazon Visa.

My question: It appears that having only 6 cc's is hurting my credit score, at least according to one popular site. I thought the general rule of thumb was, fewer cards used routinely and responsibly was the path to 800. My credit score is on a lethargic climb right now. Will more cards (albeit mostly not often used) increase my score or hurt it? My AoYA (age of most recent cc) is 6 months.

Thanks for any guidance.
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Re: Why having more cc's is better than not

More cards does NOT equal a better score.

Age of credit history, payment history, account mix, utilization, etc. are what matters. You can achieve a good score with 6 cards just as easy as 20 cards.
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Re: Why having more cc's is better than not

Thanks. That's a relief. I guess it follows then that, in order to hit 800 before I die, I need to go into debt (ie car loan) and pay it off over time. I hate debt. Is there any other way to get there?

Thanks for the info. I really don't need or want any more cc's.
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CreditInspired
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Re: Why having more cc's is better than not


@Anonymous wrote:
Hi all... I've been lurking here for quite some time trying to figure out how to improve my credit score. My identity was stolen and after I froze my credit file and let my cc's go, the police suggested I use cash or checks for a while. That turned out to be great advice because I had a target on my back. It was inconvenient, but it saved me from total destruction. After the dust settled, I thought it was time to get back into the cc world. With a limited cc history and a score in the 500's, I've now aquired 6 cc's with credit scores ranging from 756 to 787. 2 Amex, 2 Cap 1, Discover & Chase Amazon Visa.

My question: It appears that having only 6 cc's is hurting my credit score, at least according to one popular site. I thought the general rule of thumb was, fewer cards used routinely and responsibly was the path to 800. My credit score is on a lethargic climb right now. Will more cards (albeit mostly not often used) increase my score or hurt it? My AoYA (age of most recent cc) is 6 months.

Thanks for any guidance.

That popular site does that to market the credit cards on their site that they hope you’ll apply for. It’s a marketing ploy and they get a commission for every referral.

 

For optimum scoring purposes, only 3 revolving CCs are needed so you dont need anymore. 


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Re: Why having more cc's is better than not


@Anonymous wrote:
Thanks. That's a relief. I guess it follows then that, in order to hit 800 before I die, I need to go into debt (ie car loan) and pay it off over time. I hate debt. Is there any other way to get there?

Thanks for the info. I really don't need or want any more cc's.

You can always open a Share Secured Loan also known as a Credit Builder loan with a credit union for little or no cost since you'd be paying down the loan balance to below 8.9% immediately.  That will improve your Credit Mix and boost your FICO scores.

Having 6 credit cards isn't hurting your scores....you just need time, a factor in credit scoring which unfortunately cannot be rushed.

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CramEiko
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@Anonymous wrote:
Hi all... I've been lurking here for quite some time trying to figure out how to improve my credit score. My identity was stolen and after I froze my credit file and let my cc's go, the police suggested I use cash or checks for a while. That turned out to be great advice because I had a target on my back. It was inconvenient, but it saved me from total destruction. After the dust settled, I thought it was time to get back into the cc world. With a limited cc history and a score in the 500's, I've now aquired 6 cc's with credit scores ranging from 756 to 787. 2 Amex, 2 Cap 1, Discover & Chase Amazon Visa.

My question: It appears that having only 6 cc's is hurting my credit score, at least according to one popular site. I thought the general rule of thumb was, fewer cards used routinely and responsibly was the path to 800. My credit score is on a lethargic climb right now. Will more cards (albeit mostly not often used) increase my score or hurt it? My AoYA (age of most recent cc) is 6 months.

Thanks for any guidance.

Was this site CK by chance? or one like it? Fico will give you real numbers. CK's scores aren't realistic. Their algorithms are all messed up. Example: $1,400 posted to a card that has a $34k limit (only a 4.3% UTI jump from 0% UTI previous months) - My CK's TU score went down by 4 and EQ went up by 13 - What does your math say? They need just need you to apply for more CC's using their approval process so that they can make $$. Though CK is great tool to look at your credit at a glance. It should not be used as the final answer. 

 

As far as the number of your cards needed for great scores. It's been said that you only need 3 with some other factors like recurring payments like auto loans. If your income and spending habits can support more than 3 cards, then that is up to you.

 

I know someone that has had 2 paid off auto loans (paid off early - Infiniti and Porsche) and has had only 1 CC in good standing for over 11 years. I ran her credit for her and she was over 820. 





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CreditInspired
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Re: Why having more cc's is better than not


@Anonymous wrote:
Thanks. That's a relief. I guess it follows then that, in order to hit 800 before I die, I need to go into debt (ie car loan) and pay it off over time. I hate debt. Is there any other way to get there?

Thanks for the info. I really don't need or want any more cc's.

If by debt, you mean having a mortgage, then yes you’ll be in debt, but an 800 score is still attainable as long as you pay your bills on time, keep your UT very low, and let the history of your accounts age. Of course no baddies or derogs of any kind. 

 

Also, as long as you treat your credit cards like a debit card by PIF, you will not be in debt. IMO, those who are in debt are ones who spend more than they can pay off and pay interest. 

 

You’re on the right path. Keep up the good work. 


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coreysw12
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Re: Why having more cc's is better than not

What I've read is that 1 card is good, 2 is better, and 3 is best... anything beyond 3 cards won't do a lot. Use all the cards regularly, don't carry balances, and practice AZEO (all zero except one) to optimize your scores. Obviously, don't make any late payments.

 

Other than that, the only thing you can do to grow your scores besides just waiting, is to expand your credit mix. An installment loan and a mortgage would be a good addition to your revolving cards, and give you a good mix and higher score - but obviously, it isn't always a good idea to take out new loans just for the sake of boosting your scores. A self-loan may be a good option, though.

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Anonymous
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Hey, that sounds like a great idea!  My credit reports don't reflect the two houses I paid off in 2007, so this loan sounds like a good alternative.  I've never heard of it. Do all credit unions offer a loan like this and will it work even if I pay it off after making one payment?

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Anonymous
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Re: Why having more cc's is better than not

Yes, ck. It's kind of a squirrely place with my scores moving in odd directions without apparent reason. They did help me get back into cc's, but now I'm done.  My identity was stolen, in part, because I had so many cc's. I try to fly under the radar now.  I can support more cards, but I don't need them.  

 

I love your story! 1 cc and an 820 score! That's what I'm after;-)  Thanks.

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