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capricornchanges
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Refer/ eligible is all hope lost?

So, I’m finally nearing the end of this journey and supposed to close on June 7. Yesterday, my loan officer ran it through desktop underwriter and got the above. My lender does do manual underwriting But my understanding is that manual underwriting is harder, so I guess I’m thinking what’s the point? If DU has a problem surely a human underwriter will too. I’m so nervous and frustrated.


1st goal: 700 across the board
Starting Scores 01/19/2018
Equifax : 579
Transunion: 585
Experian: 602

Current 07/06/2018
Equifax:662
Transunion: 645
Experian: 683








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homeloanexpert
Established Contributor

Re: Refer/ eligible is all hope lost?

That can happen if the data originally was input was inaccurate by the LO or their Processor. For example, higher income, or rerunning credit and scores have dropped. A downgraded or Manualy Underwritten loan is not the end of the world, I do them all the time! It just means there will be more pieces of the puzzle to make the loan work. When I get a Refer/Eligible, I'm pretty transparent. I will send the findings (the numbered conditions) to the borrower so we can go over them one by one. You'll need to be cautious, some lenders will have extra layer or overlays of additional requirements due to investor guidelines. PM me if you need additional assistance.

 

Best Wishes!

Branch Manager - Specializing in FHA, VA, USDA, Conventional, Jumbo, Portfolio and Non-QM Loan Products.
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NC_Mtg_Loaner
Valued Contributor

Re: Refer/ eligible is all hope lost?

Hope is eternal.   Answers and solutions to problems are often hidden until found.

 

Did your LO explain why you are now REFER/ELIGIBLE and not APPROVE/ELIGIBLE?  It's usually right there on the first page of the findings and can be a result of insufficient information provided at Origination that was discovered to be different while processing/underwriting.   

 

I wouldn't panic yet, so come back and keep us posted.

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Licensed NC, SC and VA Mortgage Loan Originator
Message 3 of 13
capricornchanges
Regular Contributor

Re: Refer/ eligible is all hope lost?

No, he didn’t, all he said was that he was going to keep at it until he has an answer, whatever that means. He figured everything high at the initial meeting and my mid only dropped 6 pts from 685 to 679, no new debt, I don’t know what to think.


1st goal: 700 across the board
Starting Scores 01/19/2018
Equifax : 579
Transunion: 585
Experian: 602

Current 07/06/2018
Equifax:662
Transunion: 645
Experian: 683








Message 4 of 13
kc0039
Established Contributor

Re: Refer/ eligible is all hope lost?


@capricornchanges wrote:
No, he didn’t, all he said was that he was going to keep at it until he has an answer, whatever that means. He figured everything high at the initial meeting and my mid only dropped 6 pts from 685 to 679, no new debt, I don’t know what to think.

Ouch... maybe dropping below 680 was the one that hurt your AUS eligibility.

Licensed in IL
Message 5 of 13
capricornchanges
Regular Contributor

Re: Refer/ eligible is all hope lost?

Could be, didn’t think of that, but I’m going HomeReady, I think their minimum is 620


1st goal: 700 across the board
Starting Scores 01/19/2018
Equifax : 579
Transunion: 585
Experian: 602

Current 07/06/2018
Equifax:662
Transunion: 645
Experian: 683








Message 6 of 13
NC_Mtg_Loaner
Valued Contributor

Re: Refer/ eligible is all hope lost?


@kc0039 wrote:

@capricornchanges wrote:
No, he didn’t, all he said was that he was going to keep at it until he has an answer, whatever that means. He figured everything high at the initial meeting and my mid only dropped 6 pts from 685 to 679, no new debt, I don’t know what to think.

Ouch... maybe dropping below 680 was the one that hurt your AUS eligibility.


Well, not having an LO that can read and share the DU Findings with him doesn't help either.  That part isn't Rocket Science.

__________________________________________________

Licensed NC, SC and VA Mortgage Loan Originator
Message 7 of 13
kc0039
Established Contributor

Re: Refer/ eligible is all hope lost?


@NC_Mtg_Loaner wrote:

@kc0039 wrote:

@capricornchanges wrote:
No, he didn’t, all he said was that he was going to keep at it until he has an answer, whatever that means. He figured everything high at the initial meeting and my mid only dropped 6 pts from 685 to 679, no new debt, I don’t know what to think.

Ouch... maybe dropping below 680 was the one that hurt your AUS eligibility.


Well, not having an LO that can read and share the DU Findings with him doesn't help either.  That part isn't Rocket Science.


I don't share DU findings because it can be too much for borrower. I do know that DU can be fickle.

OFF topic tangent: I had a refi where it was approve/eligible with a 686 score. It went refer/ineligible a week before closing. It didn't like the amount of inquiries on the credit report.

 

Anyway, Home Ready does goes down to 620, but unless I read the findings, I can't really say what made it refer/eligible. Since the only information that was given was that the score becoming lower and nothing else, I assumed that the score lowering would have made the system cause a refer/eligible outcome.

Licensed in IL
Message 8 of 13
capricornchanges
Regular Contributor

Re: Refer/ eligible is all hope lost?

He said the following:
Bk dismissed 2012
Forclosure on heloc from 08/08
No reserves ( first I’ve been told to have them)
And my ratio is 44.9%

So he’s now saying I have a 50-50 shot. I’m so depressed right now , we are supposed to close in two weeks and he’s hesitant to send it for manual UW because he thinks the risk is too great


1st goal: 700 across the board
Starting Scores 01/19/2018
Equifax : 579
Transunion: 585
Experian: 602

Current 07/06/2018
Equifax:662
Transunion: 645
Experian: 683








Message 9 of 13
kc0039
Established Contributor

Re: Refer/ eligible is all hope lost?


@capricornchanges wrote:
He said the following:
Bk dismissed 2012
Forclosure on heloc from 08/08
No reserves ( first I’ve been told to have them)
And my ratio is 44.9%

So he’s now saying I have a 50-50 shot. I’m so depressed right now , we are supposed to close in two weeks and he’s hesitant to send it for manual UW because he thinks the risk is too great

44.9%. Do you have any reserves? 401K, stocks, etc?

Licensed in IL
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