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Thanks for that. It's appreciated!! When you say it "should be possible", are you taking the charge off and lates into account?? Most recent was the charge off in 1/2024. I'm just so disappointed with myself because it was totally avoidable and over $125 :-(.
Also, thanks for the tip regarding 203k. I was aware of that program and definitely open to using it. My husband is a contractor, ha.
@Jdaisy0805 wrote:Thanks for that. It's appreciated!! When you say it "should be possible", are you taking the charge off and lates into account?? Most recent was the charge off in 1/2024. I'm just so disappointed with myself because it was totally avoidable and over $125 :-(.
Yes, I was assuming worst case is you'd qualify via a manual underwrite. In that scenario the maximum housing & total debt ratios are listed below.
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The $450k sales price is using a housing ratio of no more than 40% and a total ratio of no more than 50%.
But with 10% down I think there'd be a good chance you'd qualify with an automated underwriting approval, which would allow the housing ratio to qualify up to 46.99% and the total ratio to 56.99%.
The 203(k) program doesn't allow your husband (or you) to be the general contractor, but hopefully since he's in that line of work he'd know someone licensed & insured who would act as the GC and give you guys a deal.
For clarification purposes, the model I'm looking at is FHA, yes? I can't tell you how much I appreciate you, going above and beyond to help me understand and anticipate possible scenarios. Extra KUDOS to you <3!
So you don't think we could do a convention then? TIA
You're welcome and correct, it's FHA.
I think it's unlikely to qualify for conventional automated underwriting, and even if you do, FHA should offer a lower monthly payment due to your credit scores. The great thing is we loan officers can run both scenarios - first for conventional to see if that'd even be an option and then for FHA.
Thank YOU! 😊
Congratulations on the progress! I'm not an expert, but this might be a help. If I read you post correctly, your only installment loan is a car loan with 8 payments left. There are fico points to be gained by having an open installment loan, which you have. There is an additional boost when your balance to loan ratio is less than 9%. This should occur, roughly, when you have 9% of the payments left. For a 60 month loan, 5.4 payments. If I'm correct here, you should see a small boost soon. Depending on your loan term, you might make it happen sooner by preparing a couple of payments.
Thanks for the tip! I had actually considered that yesterday, and it looks like we would have about 2.5 payments to push the remaining balance to 9%.
we've run into a couple things, though. First, actual transcripts are required from IRS for 2024?? I didn't think that was the case for pre approval, and we haven't yet filed. All of our financials are in order, and they should be filed next week. I anticipate it will take some time for those transcripts to update, though.
another thing, in regards to tax, apparently, we also then need to then apply for and get an approval letter for a repayment plan for the owed tax from 2024. Is that accurate?
Lastly, I'm wondering about trade lines.. we only have the one that's over 12 months. Will that pose an issue. If so, we might be looking at August to get 12 months of reporting from one of the newer CCs. As for a third, the only other things would be cell phones or car insurance. I don't want out LL to know of our inquiries until necessary.
IRS transcripts are only required if you are self-employed or otherwise using your tax return to document your income, the other situation it's common to use tax returns to document income is if you have rental properties/rental income. If you are just relying on W-2 income to qualify then you shouldn't need to provide your tax returns or your tax transcripts. Further, in those situations where tax returns are required then if you file a tax return filing extension then the 2024 tax returns or transcripts wouldn't be needed until October 15th.
If you have owing income taxes then they either need to be paid in full or set up on a payment plan. It's really easy to set up a payment plan, usually can be done on the IRS website but otherwise you can just call them up (I recommend first thing in the morning) and get one set up over the phone. The payment is included in your DTI calculation.
If you get an automated underwriting approval then that means your credit depth/history has been found acceptable. Some lenders may have "overlay" requirements for a certain # and duration of tradelines but that isn't very common these days. If your loan needs to be manually underwritten then underwriters are looking for 3 trade lines of 12 months each - and you can use non-traditional credit to meet that requirement. For FHA it requires that you have one of: rental housing payments, telephone service or utility company reference (gas, electricity, water, television, internet) and then the other 2 can also be one of those or it can be insurance premiums not payroll deducted (like automobile insurance, medical, life, renter's insurance), payment to child care providers made to businesses that provide such services, school tuition, retail store credit cards (for example, from department, furniture, appliance stores, or specialty stores), rent-to-own (for example, furniture, appliances), payment of that part of medical bills not covered by insurance, a documented 12-month history of savings evidenced by regular deposits resulting in an increased balance to the account that that are made at least quarterly, or a personal loan from an individual with repayment terms in writing and supported by canceled checks to document the payments.
Thanks for the in depth explanation! Yea, income is self employment only. He's been an owner for a long while, but 2022 revenue wasn't sufficient for our deaired price range. We will need 2024 taxes as well which we will owe a bit. Good to know about the trade lines not being too much of an issue! Looks like we will get these taxes filed and go from there :-).