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gizmotchy
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Is consolidation the answer?

Hey everyone!

 

Reading thru you guy's experiences has been a big help to me over the last year, as I've worked to rebuild from my mistakes of the past.  And, because I really do *not* want to make another mistake, I want to ask for your advice!  First, I'll run down the situation:

 

Current Scorewatch: 662 (up from 592 in May 2014).

 

Current Open Accounts (current balance/limit):

 

Cap1 Quicksilver - 3700/5000

Cap1 Platinum - 820/1500

FNB Omaha - 1980/2750

Amazon Storecard - 1075/1800

WalMart Storecard - 970/1500

Conoco gas card - 38/400

Lane Bryant storecard - 89/550

PayPal Credit - 89/750

(All these accounts are at around 24% interest)

 

Other:

Student Loans - 6100 @ 6.625%

IRS Tax Debt - 24K (Currently making $400 monthly payments toward this - does not show on any credit report, thank god)

 

Credit Report Baddies:

Old Cortrust Bank credit card charged off, 2 collection agency entries marked paid, all set to drop off by the end of the year.  Old tradeline for student loans still present (even tho I've undergone rehabilitation on them) that falls off in 2017.  Last 5 years 100% clean, no lates, no nothing.

 

Income: 70K/year

 

I'm considering applying for a 10K prosper loan to consolidate down all those cards.  In the month of August, I paid over 1300 as payments toward those credit card accounts.  Prosper has quoted me 10K over 36 months at 22% APR with a monthly payment of 350.  The way I figure it, this would give me an extra 1K each month I could put toward the tax debt or the student loans.  The way I figure it, this would massively improve my UTI, and result in a pretty good boost to my already improved scores, plus with the baddies coming off by the end of the year, I could probably crack the 700 club for the first time in my life!

 

The only pitfall I can really see with this right now is if I can't maintain my willpower, and end up running up the cards again.  I don't forsee that happening, tho - I've been working too hard the last year to allow that to happen.  I will probably put as many of my current monthly payments as I can onto the Quicksilver for the cash back rewards, and just pay off it's balance in full every month - stop using the others entirely, but keep them open - maybe once my scores get higher try to get my interest rates lowered.

 

Does anyone see any issues with this plan that i'm not thinking about?  Or do you think I should go for it?



Beginning Scores 5/10/2014: EX 604, EQ 587, TU 658 Current 11/9/2015: EQ 665 TU 665 (FAKO) EX 659 (FAKO)
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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Is consolidation the answer?

Well you hit the obvious pitfall (that you'll run up cards again; however, if you're paying them down now, that seems unlikely to me but I don't know you).  Doesn't sound like that 1300/month is just minimum payments though?  As a result that excess doesn't all drop to free cash flow as you still have expenses, think your math is a little off Smiley Happy

 

I don't know that a 2% win in APR is really worthwhile TBH, especially with the following:

1) You can pretty up your balances even with your current utilization some

2) You have several old derogs falling off end of the year.

 

I'd put lipstick on the pig for a couple of months by snowballing the low balances, until those derogs fell off; after that make friends with a local CU or two and see what they can do for you and then talk to Lending Club and Prosper.  I think you can do better APR wise than 22% by that point, possibly by a lot depending on score improvement in the next few months, and this would absolutely make a lot more sense if there was more disparity between the APR's.




        
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Anonymous
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Re: Is consolidation the answer?

I did what you are considering/afraid of doing.  Consolidated all my debt and ran up my CC's again essentially doubling my debt.  Check out my recommendation here.  Though some people may not agree with my personal loan +20%, IMHO overall it's pretty solid advise and it definitely works.  

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Anonymous
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Re: Is consolidation the answer?

You listed all your debt but did not mention an auto loan.  If you have a car with no loan, consider financing it for it's value and use the funds for your credit card consolidation.

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Anonymous
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Re: Is consolidation the answer?


@Revelate wrote:

Well you hit the obvious pitfall (that you'll run up cards again; however, if you're paying them down now, that seems unlikely to me but I don't know you).  Doesn't sound like that 1300/month is just minimum payments though?  As a result that excess doesn't all drop to free cash flow as you still have expenses, think your math is a little off Smiley Happy

 

I don't know that a 2% win in APR is really worthwhile TBH, especially with the following:

1) You can pretty up your balances even with your current utilization some

2) You have several old derogs falling off end of the year.

 

I'd put lipstick on the pig for a couple of months by snowballing the low balances, until those derogs fell off; after that make friends with a local CU or two and see what they can do for you and then talk to Lending Club and Prosper.  I think you can do better APR wise than 22% by that point, possibly by a lot depending on score improvement in the next few months, and this would absolutely make a lot more sense if there was more disparity between the APR's.


I think this is very solid advice.

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Is consolidation the answer?


@Anonymous wrote:

You listed all your debt but did not mention an auto loan.  If you have a car with no loan, consider financing it for it's value and use the funds for your credit card consolidation.


That's a good idea too.




        
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TroysMom1
Contributor

Re: Is consolidation the answer?

I agree with Revelate.  An APR of 22% is high.  Last week I consolidated $12,500 of credit card debt with a loan from my credit union at 10.99% with monlthy payments of $272 (I was paying a lot more than the minimum everyone month on the cards - approx. $1600 until many had zero balances).  If you have a relationship with a credit union, applying with them might get a much better rate.  Congratulations on all the progress you've made so far.

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wa3more
Established Contributor

Re: Is consolidation the answer?

i agree with steeler/revelate.

 

Don't borrow anymore. Most people don't have the discipline to do consolidation.

 

Snow ball the debts. Stop using credit cards. Forget about credit score for now just learn to control your spending using only cash.

 

Credit cards for most are financial weapons of mass destruction.

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redbeard
Frequent Contributor

Re: Is consolidation the answer?

With either lending tree or prosper, you pay some sort of fee for the loan, I believe.

 

This might not be bad if the interest rate you would pay was significantly lower, but, it will be about the same.  

 

What I recommend:

Simply put, paying on credit with 20+% interest eventually makes you feel like a hamster on an exercise wheel.  It's hard to get ahead, especially if you can't pay significant extra on the cards.  I know, I'm digging myself out of this type of mess and have been for a while now.  

 

You appear to be in okay shape though with improving scores at the end of the year.  If this is reality, then you have another option:

- Continue what you are doing till the end of the year.

- Once the collections drop off, apply for a card that will allow you to do a balance transfer at 0% (or some low amount) for 12 months or longer.

- Once you have that, transfer as much of your highest interest rate cards to it as you can.  

- Pay aggressively on the new card

 

Now, for the hard part.... today, pull your credit cards out of your wallet, except for your favorite one.

Pull a pair of scissors out of the drawer.

Cut up the cards.

 

Once you have your balances under control, you can request new ones.  You don't need to close the credit lines, just remove easy access to them.  Keep one, but perhaps don't carry it in your wallet for a while.

 

You're not anywhere most people haven't been, but given the number of cards you have and balances on them, you need to be careful of the ease of use of credit cards.  Its easy to charge today.  Its harder to pay tomorrow though.  

 

Dan

 

Just trying to get my scores to rise from the dead......

Wait.... I think I just heard a heartbeat!

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