@UncleB wrote:Congrats on your membership, @CJ7!
FWIW, I've not seen any mentions of them freezing anybody's account(s) for a while now, and the few that have popped-up have been when people used a roommate as their sponsor (which while allowed they do watch that closely, and you have to have the paperwork perfect).
Navy has their own 'ways' of checking things out, and if the rep indicated that everything was OK with using your grandfather's service to qualify there's an excellent chance you have nothing to be concerned about.
It’s also possible they just haven’t had an NCUA audit lately. I have been cautiously optimistic because while my grandfather retired from the Air Force and I was born on Tyndall AFB because my father was in the Air Force (although I’m not sure about his discharge status), my grandmother and I fell out a long time ago so I can’t legally get a copy of my grandfather’s DD-214. I have his service number, his social, his rank of Chief Master Sergeant, his dates of service, where he’s buried at Fort Logan National Cemetary and even his original Vietnam commendation but if they ask for his DD-214, it’s going to be a real bear trying to get it.
Hopefully they actually do have a way to verify this stuff and those of us who are eligible but can’t get the actual DD-214 like myself aren’t going to be slapped in the face one day - my grandmother could potentially be convinced to help me if my sister tells her that my finances are frozen but she sure can hold a grudge so that’s why I haven’t brought all my banking over yet just in case.
What I found most odd was they never even asked for my grandfather's name in my case.
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@CJ7 wrote:What I found most odd was they never even asked for my grandfather's name in my case.
They didn’t in mine either, we just discussed his rank and she pushed it through which is what makes me cautiously optimistic when it comes to my accounts not being frozen. It’s been 3 months and hasn’t happened but there were reports here of people getting nailed a year down the line.
If you have the paperwork, it’s best to just get it on file sooner rather than later. I may broach the subject with my dad about what it says on his DD-214 when I call him to say Merry Christmas so that if he does have a reason of honorable, I can just file it and then close my bank account with FirstBank and move everything to NFCU.
Otherwise the only way I can get my grandfather’s DD-214 is to get my sister in the middle of my grandmother and I which I don’t want to do unless I have to.
That's because there's not much you can do with their name and personal information unless they're a current member. NFCU isn't a government entity, so they wouldn't have access to discharge info in the first place. Also, depending on when your grandfather served, there may not exist a DD-214, but the honorable discharge certificate is perfectly sufficient.
There has actually been talk about NFCU having ways of verifying military affiliation without need of the DD-214 being submitted and many members who have been members many years without ever providing anything so it’s quite possible they do have a way of verifying military affiliation through other means.
I guess time will tell. Worst case scenario I have to go without access to my card for a bit while I figure out how to get the DD-214. Asking my dad may sound like the easiest way around the situation on paper but he really doesn’t like to talk about the time when he was with my mother. My mother and I aren’t on any better terms than my grandmother and I — but my uncle might be willing to help me and he can legally request my grandfather’s DD-214. I’ll ask my sister to ask him. I didn’t think about that before.
YOU can legally request it if he was discharged before ... 1959, I think. It'll take a while to get it, though. Alternatively, if he's dead, contact the funeral home for it. They'll have his military record in their files. Easy-peasy.
Wait, Fort Logan will have it? I didn’t realize a VA burial site will release them? Maybe I’ll call them tomorrow and see what they say.
And he died young. His service was 11/59-7/79. He enlisted around his 18th birthday. He died of brain cancer in 2003. 
Thanks for the assistance, I was thinking I was out of luck. I did send my sister a message to ask my mother, uncle, and grandmother as a last resort about it and provided his service number, social, end service date and the eVetRecs site so one way or another, it’s going to start moving.
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@CJ7 wrote:What I found most odd was they never even asked for my grandfather's name in my case.
They didn’t in mine either, we just discussed his rank and she pushed it through which is what makes me cautiously optimistic when it comes to my accounts not being frozen. It’s been 3 months and hasn’t happened but there were reports here of people getting nailed a year down the line.
If you have the paperwork, it’s best to just get it on file sooner rather than later. I may broach the subject with my dad about what it says on his DD-214 when I call him to say Merry Christmas so that if he does have a reason of honorable, I can just file it and then close my bank account with FirstBank and move everything to NFCU.
Otherwise the only way I can get my grandfather’s DD-214 is to get my sister in the middle of my grandmother and I which I don’t want to do unless I have to.
That's because there's not much you can do with their name and personal information unless they're a current member. NFCU isn't a government entity, so they wouldn't have access to discharge info in the first place. Also, depending on when your grandfather served, there may not exist a DD-214, but the honorable discharge certificate is perfectly sufficient.
There has actually been talk about NFCU having ways of verifying military affiliation without need of the DD-214 being submitted and many members who have been members many years without ever providing anything so it’s quite possible they do have a way of verifying military affiliation through other means.
I guess time will tell. Worst case scenario I have to go without access to my card for a bit while I figure out how to get the DD-214. Asking my dad may sound like the easiest way around the situation on paper but he really doesn’t like to talk about the time when he was with my mother. My mother and I aren’t on any better terms than my grandmother and I — but my uncle might be willing to help me and he can legally request my grandfather’s DD-214. I’ll ask my sister to ask him. I didn’t think about that before.
YOU can legally request it if he was discharged before ... 1959, I think. It'll take a while to get it, though. Alternatively, if he's dead, contact the funeral home for it. They'll have his military record in their files. Easy-peasy.
Wait, Fort Logan will have it? I didn’t realize a VA burial site will release them? Maybe I’ll call them tomorrow and see what they say.
And he died young. His service was 11/59-7/79. He enlisted around his 18th birthday. He died of brain cancer in 2003.
Thanks for the assistance, I was thinking I was out of luck. I did send my sister a message to ask my mother, uncle, and grandmother as a last resort about it and provided his service number, social, end service date and the eVetRecs site so one way or another, it’s going to start moving.
The actual funeral home will have it. Like, Smith's Funeral Home in Anywhere, USA. But yeah, the funeral home should release it. They don't have to, but plenty of people go to the local funeral homes to do geneaology research.
I joined back on 10-3, eligible because my dad was a Korean War army vet. My problem was, his service records were destroyed during the '73 National Personnel Records Center fire, and that the process of reconstructing his file has been ongoing since 2010. I explained this to the kind woman over the phone, and all she said in response (in a respectful, understanding tone) was that I meet the eligibility, then proceeded to set up my checking account. Since then, my dad received an NA FORM 13038 (certifying military service), which I will provide them upon request.
