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@Bman70 wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:Found this. Are you sure that you didn't enroll in this 'CyberCode Text'?
https://www.usaa.com/inet/pages/security_token_logon_options
Also going to move this thread to Personal Finance as it's not really about credit cards.
Interesting. I don't think so. It's possible they offered a popup and I accepted. Here's the email text from back in mid May:
Cybercrime is an ongoing risk for all USAA members. Fraudsters can attack in so many ways that passwords and security questions can't be relied on as the sole sources of account security. That's why USAA is implementing multifactor authentication (MFA) to enhance your USAA account security.
What Is MFA, and How Does It Work?
As the name indicates, MFA is simply the use of multiple factors to help identify you. MFA enhances your security because it lets you authenticate yourself with a combination of something you:
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know: password or pin;
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have: phone, token or code; and
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are: biometrics, such as facial or fingerprint recognition.
You'll Be Automatically Enrolled in MFA on May 25
Effective May 25, 2017, you'll be prompted to provide a one-time security code when you call or visit usaa.com. There are three options for you to receive this code:
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By using your USAA Mobile App. Simply select the lock icon on the bottom right of the screen before logging on. A code will appear which refreshes every 30 seconds.
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By choosing an email from your profile. We'll send the code to that email address.
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By choosing a phone number from your profile. You'll receive the code by text message.
All of these methods make every touch point with USAA unique and help further protect your account and personal information from fraud. Please make sure you have your mobile device or access to your email when you contact us so you can log on with MFA.
Hmmm. Guess time will tell if I get it eventually. Hope not though
Well, good news.. it can be opted out of. I was somehow automatically enrolled (see email above), and when I called a security specialist said it couldn't be disabled. However, you can: When logged in, click your name and choose "Profile and Preferences." Select the Security button. Then you can uncheck MFA authenticaion, and check "Computer Recognition" authentication, which is what I had before.
@Bman70 wrote:
Well, good news.. it can be opted out of. I was somehow automatically enrolled (see email above), and when I called a security specialist said it couldn't be disabled. However, you can: When logged in, click your name and choose "Profile and Preferences." Select the Security button. Then you can uncheck MFA authenticaion, and check "Computer Recognition" authentication, which is what I had before.
Good information and followup. As to CSRs ... sometimes I wonder how they got their jobs. For myself, often I know more than the people I ask to verify different things. Sad ... ![]()
@Anonymous wrote:
@Bman70 wrote:
Well, good news.. it can be opted out of. I was somehow automatically enrolled (see email above), and when I called a security specialist said it couldn't be disabled. However, you can: When logged in, click your name and choose "Profile and Preferences." Select the Security button. Then you can uncheck MFA authenticaion, and check "Computer Recognition" authentication, which is what I had before.
Good information and followup. As to CSRs ... sometimes I wonder how they got their jobs. For myself, often I know more than the people I ask to verify different things. Sad ...
+1 on the followup, I still have the PIN I have to enter every time like Irish personally so didn't get a change here heh.
re: CSR's - I doubt there's much in the way of training.
Even the legendary places like Dell Customer Support back in the 90's where they trained us for six full weeks before they let us fly solo on a customer call don't exist anymore, and for something like a financial institution telephone rep? High turnover, low investment, low pay, so I'm not really surprised at the lack of general knowledge.
Hate to say this but it's seriously unlikely that their being an expert on all things <insert financial institution name here> is even a factor in their compensation plan or whether they're going to be employed two weeks from now. Second level / Executive level / whatever the escalation path is where you're going to find more specific and accurate information, and that's true in any tiered support model I'd submit.

quote: "re: CSR's - I doubt there's much in the way of training"
EXACTLY! Worked as a CSR myself and training was very minimal and often they just throw you out there without finishing the training. Also they don't always tell CSR's about upcoming changes to prevent leaks to the public.
Also, multi factor authentication is something that can usually be opted in or out of. For example you can do this with Apple. I hope companies don't start requiring it.
@Revelate wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
@Bman70 wrote:
Well, good news.. it can be opted out of. I was somehow automatically enrolled (see email above), and when I called a security specialist said it couldn't be disabled. However, you can: When logged in, click your name and choose "Profile and Preferences." Select the Security button. Then you can uncheck MFA authenticaion, and check "Computer Recognition" authentication, which is what I had before.
Good information and followup. As to CSRs ... sometimes I wonder how they got their jobs. For myself, often I know more than the people I ask to verify different things. Sad ...
+1 on the followup, I still have the PIN I have to enter every time like Irish personally so didn't get a change here heh.
re: CSR's - I doubt there's much in the way of training.
Even the legendary places like Dell Customer Support back in the 90's where they trained us for six full weeks before they let us fly solo on a customer call don't exist anymore, and for something like a financial institution telephone rep? High turnover, low investment, low pay, so I'm not really surprised at the lack of general knowledge.
Hate to say this but it's seriously unlikely that their being an expert on all things <insert financial institution name here> is even a factor in their compensation plan or whether they're going to be employed two weeks from now. Second level / Executive level / whatever the escalation path is where you're going to find more specific and accurate information, and that's true in any tiered support model I'd submit.
What's a little disconcerting is how confident he was in assuring me it couldn't be disabled, even going into a lengthy explanation of why.
BTW, if you don't want to enter the PIN every time (on computer, not mobile), you can select "remember PIN on computers I trust." It will ask you if you trust the computer you're using, and select yes. Then it's just a password login.