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Warning: Funds frozen for those of you who have Grid, Juno, Yotta or with Evolve Bank & Trust

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MissLiz
Established Contributor

Re: Warning: Funds frozen for those of you who have Grid, Juno, Yotta or with Evolve Bank & Trus

85 million dollars is missing! 😳

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/07/synapse-bankruptcy-trustee-85-million-of-customer-savings-is-missing... 

“A woman’s best protection is a little money of her own.” – Clare Boothe Luce
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Mike78th
New Visitor

Re: Warning: Funds frozen for those of you who have Grid, Juno, Yotta or with Evolve Bank & Trus

I've been dealing with this issue as well...I find it insane how Juno just shut off its phone line so there's absolutely no way to actually speak to someone. They give vague responses as to what's going on and up until now I didn't really know that Synapse had gone bankrupt with funds lost. All Juno put up was that they had an issue with their partner and they were looking to change. It's been over two months and my money is essentially being held hostage. Granted it's not a large sum (only about $200) but still it's my money. Smh these ppl suck.

Message 12 of 16
titancylinder
Frequent Contributor

Re: Warning: Funds frozen for those of you who have Grid, Juno, Yotta or with Evolve Bank & Trus


@SuperFlyEDSguy wrote:

I'm with Fidelity for Brokerage and like them a lot, but I was under the impression that they fall under brokerage rules instead of banking rules, thereby precluding them from having direct FDIC coverage on banking accounts. So, they as well as most brokerages providing banking services, simply partner up with a number of banks and use white-label accounts through actual banks that do carry FDIC coverage. This is why some brokerage's banking accounts could be insured for massive amounts, basically they will allow up to $2.5M in FDIC coverage by placing a maximum of $250K in each account and use 10 total accounts on the backend. I believe that each account must be with a separate banking partner because the $250K rule applies to each bank, depositor, and account type. So, no way to double or 10x dip with the same bank unless there's another loophole that I'm not aware of.

 

I thought about using some of Fidelity's banking products, especially mofe recently with the money market rates, but going with that kind of account will likely not come with FDIC insurance since brokerage money markets are different than banking money market accounts, and being brokerage are not FDIC insurable. The one thing that I think you won't have to worry about with Fidelity is insolvency as they practically print their own money and won't be going anywhere anytime soon! You wouldn't need to worry about insurance for insolvency anyways and could get those core money market brokerage rates with the right banking account. I say "right" because it's been a while since looking, but Fidelity had a handful of banking products available, each one being pretty unique.


I ran across this and wanted to respond. While Fidelity is a brokerage, they have a Cash Management program that is fully FDIC insured. In fact, it has increased insurance coverage (up to 5 million). The 2.5 million max/250k Per is a misconception. There are FDIC insurance tiers. Some FDIC deposit programs charge more for them. 

 

What I like about Fidelity is its FDIC insured program is a sweep deposit account. All the money isn't stored at a single bank.

 

Fine Print:

2.​The Cash Balance in the Fidelity Cash Management Account is swept into an FDIC-Insured interest-bearing account at one or more program banks and, under certain circumstances, a Money Market mutual fund (the "Money Market Overflow"). The deposits swept into the program bank(s) are eligible for FDIC Insurance, subject to FDIC insurance coverage limits. Balances that are swept to the Money Market Overflow are not eligible for FDIC insurance but are eligible for SIPC coverage under SIPC rules. At a minimum, there are 20 banks available to accept these deposits, providing for up to $5,000,000.00 of FDIC insurance. If the number of available banks changes, or you elect not to use, and/or have existing assets at, one or more of the available banks, the actual amount could be higher or lower. All assets of the account holder at the depository institution will generally be counted toward the aggregate limit. For more information on FDIC insurance coverage, please visit www.FDIC.gov. Customers are responsible for monitoring their total assets at each of the Program Banks to determine the extent of available FDIC insurance coverage in accordance with FDIC rules. The deposits at Program Banks are not covered by SIPC. For additional information please see the Fidelity Cash Management Account FDIC Disclosure Document (PDF).

 

 

https://www.fidelity.com/spend-save/fidelity-cash-management-account/overview

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Virtually slap me if I apply for anything else before August 2026 and remind me I'll never get my U.S. Bank Altitude Reserve Visa Infinite (USBANK retired this card this card in 2024).
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Message 13 of 16
IcyCool7227
Frequent Contributor

Re: Warning: Funds frozen for those of you who have Grid, Juno, Yotta or with Evolve Bank & Trus

True but there is no interest rate for your money or even cashback rewards for their cash management program. Only for Fidelity Bloom but that is limited to the first $300 and 10 cent debit card cashback. It's even worse now though since they removed the hundreds of cashback offers that can earn additional incentives. There are just so many better options out there than Fidelity but at least you get the $30 deposit bonus every year so I definitely wouldn't completely dump it. And their customer service is excellent too.

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Message 14 of 16
titancylinder
Frequent Contributor

Re: Warning: Funds frozen for those of you who have Grid, Juno, Yotta or with Evolve Bank & Trus


@IcyCool7227 wrote:

True but there is no interest rate for your money or even cashback rewards for their cash management program. Only for Fidelity Bloom but that is limited to the first $300 and 10 cent debit card cashback. It's even worse now though since they removed the hundreds of cashback offers that can earn additional incentives. There are just so many better options out there than Fidelity but at least you get the $30 deposit bonus every year so I definitely wouldn't completely dump it. And their customer service is excellent too.


Yes there is, they pay me interest every month on my money. Right now, it's 2.72% annual percentage yield. For a checking account, I'll take it. 

Fico Scores: F9 EQ 791 TU 803 EX 781 (Oct 2024 updated)
Virtually slap me if I apply for anything else before August 2026 and remind me I'll never get my U.S. Bank Altitude Reserve Visa Infinite (USBANK retired this card this card in 2024).
In garden from July 27th 2024 to August 2026.
New Accounts: 6/12 11/24. DTI less than 5%. TCL Personal 333,163. Auto loan: SETF (estimated) initially owed 47000 / Current 32000 owed @ 60 months / 3.75% / April 2023 origination
Message 15 of 16
IsambardPrince
Established Contributor

Re: Warning: Funds frozen for those of you who have Grid, Juno, Yotta or with Evolve Bank & Trus


@IcyCool7227 wrote:

I can't believe this hasn't been mentioned yet on here but Synapse has gone bankrupt and they are the platform for the partner bank Evolve Bank & trust that aligns with neobanks like Grid that also builds credit, Juno and Yotta. All accounts are frozen until further notice. It's terrible! https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/16/a-us-trustee-wants-troubled-fintech-synapse-to-be-liquidated-via-c...

 

I myself have a total of $174.65 combined with Juno and Yotta that I cannot even get out. Thankfully most of my money is in other accounts. So word of warning - change your direct deposit and don't pay your credit cards with anything involving the partner bank Evolve Bank & Trust as it will bounce back, possibly causing problems losing the ability to push funds or close the card account. Hopefully they can resolve this soon. 


Yotta....as far as I have been informed, is the bank for people who think you spin a wheel and the bank might pay your bills with money it got from don't think about it too hard. Smiley Happy

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