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90 and 120 day lates effect?

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90 and 120 day lates effect?

So when I started my credit rebuilding journey in earnest 6 months ago I saw that I had late payments with my old student loan lender from 2013 / 2014. And they were the bad kind. It was a 90 day and a 120 day late (preceded, of course, by a 30 and 60). On Experian, these were listed under only 1 account, though at that time I had 12 accounts with that lender as student loans tend to be before you consolidate. On TransUnion, those lates were on all 12, meaning it's showing 48 late payments, 24 of which are the serious variety (90 and 120). I don't know from where these late payments came. I remember that time in my life very well (it was the year before I got married) and I would've remembered not paying a loan for 4 plus months. Fortunately, when I looked into what happened, it was an honest to goodness mistake by the lenders. At that time, I was consolidating my loans with another lender the way the payoff occurred left very small sums of money owed on each loan (7 cents on one, 42 cents on another, etc.) The lender is fixing its side. I got news yesterday that they've been removed from Experian. I am eagerly awaiting that the same has happened with Transunion. (Equifax has no record of these.) One downer is that the removal from Experian, at this time, has only led to a 1 point FICO increase (from 679-680) (according to the Experian site, which I pay for monthly along with MyFico). I have read on these forums that 90 and 120 lates affect your credit score for the whole 7 years, that those types of lates never get better with age. Could it be that my Experian score is not reflecting the change yet? Given that there are so, so many more of these on Transunion, would you all expect a substantial increase there upon removal? I will say that Equifax has no record of the late pays and that sits at 701 FICO 8, for whatever that DP means, but to be fair, Equifax never had the lates affect the score, so it's not a fair comparison. 

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FireMedic1
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Re: 90 and 120 day lates effect?

This is a rough draft from an ole member that posted it and I kept it. Each person is different so take it as an avg.

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Anonymous
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Re: 90 and 120 day lates effect?

So, I would think based on this that I should see a pretty decent score increase in the coming days on Experian and once they are removed from Trans Union the same thing. I will look forward to this. Although, I also have some late payments on a capital one card from 2017, including unfortunately two 90s. Perhaps the fact that there are other late payments is causing the effect of removal on my score to be muted?

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VanderSnoot
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Re: 90 and 120 day lates effect?


@Anonymous wrote:

Although, I also have some late payments on a capital one card from 2017, including unfortunately two 90s. Perhaps the fact that there are other late payments is causing the effect of removal on my score to be muted?


Yes. Your score is held down until your report is entirely clean. Cleaning one account (or 12) is good, but you will still have delinquencies on other accounts, so you won't get the big score bump. If the remaining delinquencies are only 30 days (versus 90-120 days), then I'd expect you to see some gains, but it would depend on how recent those other delinquencies are.

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